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Advice S&w 586/686-6 Or Dan Wesson 715

Discussion in 'Air Pistols' started by The Pie Man, Jun 18, 2020.

  1. The Pie Man

    The Pie Man “Disabled Shooter”

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    I fancy doing some rapid fire, but don’t know what one to go for ,help required please ...?
    Just with cans and knock over targets.
    Ones ten shot which appealed to me, only having one working hand Since stroke.
    The other has speed loading 6 shot, which I will find difficult to load without putting gun down ,your thoughts will help me.
    Regards
    TPM
     
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    Radlad Posting Addict

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    Get the S&W. Much better gun and magazines are reasonably cheap so you can load up a few and have a good session without having to buy many expensive cartridges. I'm not sure but I think there may be a loading tray available that will load several magazines at once without struggling? somebody else is bound to know.
    I'm not a fan of the DW. I know people rave about them but I think it's because they just love shiny things rather than practicallity and usability
     
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    I love shell loading revolvers, got a Webley MKVI and a Dan Wesson 715 (once I get it back from the shop now lockdown is eased), I also had a Smith and Wesson 586 for a while, but hated the fake part of the cylinder,so got rid of it.
    However, given what you have described as your circumstances, and the fact that I had another 586 arrived today (with six magazines that have let me have a good old blast), I would recommend the 586/686. :thumb:
     
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    Radlad Posting Addict

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    BTW. Forgot to say. The DW shells that I have pull apart and are loaded into the back of the front half and then reassembled. Don't know if they are all like that but think you would struggle to load them. It is most definitely a 2 handed job. They are not rear loading like most of the other models are. The S&W magazines will be much easier for you.
     
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  5. The Pie Man

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    Can I ask what’s the difference between 586/686
    If you do decide to sell think of me first mate
     
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    Radlad Posting Addict

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    There are some really die hard DW fans on here and I am surprised they have not jumped in already and vociferously defended the marque. Leave it until tomorrow and see if any can justify you getting one.:D:D
     
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    Headhunter Is fed up with waiting for a Chiappa Rhino

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    FYI - The DW-715's (which the OP originally asked about) have a rear loading pellet shell system, not the same as the first gen DW at all, but given the OP's limitations I too would agree with you and suggest the S&W 586/686 for some easy plinking fun.

    But that's definitely the only time I would ever put the S&W over the DW-715, plus @Radlad you've obviously not tried the DW715 then.....;) (well you did say that it would just be a matter of time before somebody stepped in to 'defend' the marque, lol), if you had tried it you'd know how 'brutally' accurate it can be (for a CO2 replica handgun) on paper targets. Just take a look at the friendly forum comp that's been going for nigh on a year, I can't remember anybody EVER posting up any scores with the S&W 586/686. :oops:
     
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    Interesting. Thanks for the heads up info on the shells. I have a couple of MTM boxes of the shells but no later ones then. I have both the early and later DW's somewhere in a cupboard but would have to get a shovel out and clear the dust away to get at them. I have quite a few ( 15-20 ish, not sure) CO2 repros but only a few interest me and the other have all come in deals and are largely untouched. I don't sell things but usually use them as barter or for trade ins for the Pre 1970ish stuff I'm mainly interested in. The only C02 pistols I use on a regular basis are Schofield, Webley and a .25 CP1. Both the Schofields and the Webleys are used in .22 and .177 and I am currently working on .20 kits for them. I'll have to get another Schofield though, so I'll have a set of each. I'm looking forward to seeing how they perform compared to standard and .22
     
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    Headhunter Is fed up with waiting for a Chiappa Rhino

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    Sounds interesting, I (and probably a good few forum members too) would love to hear how you get on with the Schofields, it will be very interesting to see how the different calibres compare against each other.

    Keep us all in the loop buddy......:)
     
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    The 586 is all black - very 'Dirty Harry'; the 686 is a silvery/nickel finish, but still has the black magazines, which make it look pants IMHO.
     
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    I thought it was my taste but does look crap imho
     
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    If you want to shoot quick then the s&w all day I sold my 715 thought the trigger and action in double action was really crap felt cheap other than that the 715 is lovely but my 586
    Is more accurate and better trigger.
     
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    I agree, but once I saw one where the owner had stripped the finish from the mags and polished them (must of been quite hard to do) but the results were soooo much better.
    If I ever own another, this would be what I would do.
     
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    I pick up my replacement 715 this afternoon! :thumb:

    Going to able to explore the delights of both pistols over this weekend - must get some more pellets while I am there. :D
     
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    Dan Wesson for a little more "realism"
    S&W for a few more shots before reloading.
    I like the Dan Wessons best,, not a fan of the naff looking cylinder affair on the S&W.
    but that's just me. others may differ.;)

    maybe take a look at both and see which you prefer,, most importantly have fun with whichever you choose.:thumb:
     
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    Yes indeed :thumb:
     
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    Wild Bill co2 Firearm Enthusiast & FX Wildcat owner.

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    I do like the Dan Wesson 6" pellet version, but I don't like any of the others.

    bestest bin6.JPG
     
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    What do you mean, DW 4”/8” you don’t like,or S&W 586?
     

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