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Rowan Multi Shot Conversion S400

Discussion in 'Technical' started by bobbydazzler, Jun 14, 2019.

  1. bobbydazzler

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    Does your magazine sit right up to the breech when inserted into the bracket???

    Just had one delivered and I've found that there's a gap of just a few millimetre's on mine.....but enough so that I can't slide the mag in without fully cocking the bolt (nor conversely remove it without fully cocking)....as the magazine fouls on the pellet probe (the wider diameter section)?

    If I try and get over this by re-positioning the bracket further along (towards the muzzle) on the dovetail the magazine will definitely not slide into it....it sorta kick's up out of alignment with the notch in the receiver bracket.

    To be honest it aint a deal breaker......I don't really mind having to fully cock the rifle to use the multi shot....but I just wondered if it was normal or should I get in touch with Rowan?

    Incidentally I ordered the 15mm version (for later models, mine's dated March 2017) but only quickly verified it before I ordered with a plaggy ruler ;) Double checking with digital verniers its actually 14.6mm :shrug:

    Appreciate any advice

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    How did you get on with this? I'm looking to order one this weekend just need to measure it up and figure out if I need the left or right bracket one
     
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    If you are right handed I would suggest buying the LH version. It sounds odd but if you think about which hand is free as you hold the rifle between shots it is your left hand. You can pull the bolt back with your right and then it is just a transfer of hands for you to use your left to rotate the magazine. I know some disagree with this but think also where you are looking down at the rifle and it will be the left hand side not the right, your eyes can see the magazine more clearly from the left.
    Of course if you are left handed you can forget everything I have just said and do the opposite.
    Hth
    Jim
     
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    Yes this is normal and by design you have to cock to load or remove a mag.

    Remember you can un-cock the 400 by pulling the bolt back then holding the trigger in before returning the bolt to the un-cocked position rather than dry firing.
     
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    The stock air arms magazine on the S410 is exactly the same.

    You can de-cock the empty rifle easily by pulling back on the bolt as you squeeze trigger at the same time
     
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    Thanks all
     
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    I have the Rowan conversion and a mixture of LH and RH mags (the bracket is not handed only the mags).

    I'm right handed and agree that the mags that pop in and index from the LH side probably feel more comfortable in use at the range if you are motoring through the lead. For hunting it really makes no difference due to the lower frequency of mag changes and indexing.
     
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    I would suggest, to avoid any risk of an accident, that anyone de-cocking an S400 pulls back the bolt fully before putting their finger on the trigger. If you do both "at the same time" there is a risk of an accidental discharge.
    Jim
     
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    Maybe I should have been more clear

    You fully pull back the bolt THEN squeeze trigger while still holding bolt backwards...
    Then slide bolt forwards with trigger still pulled
     
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    Yep it's all in the pulling and squeezing technique and we wouldn't want to risk any premature discharges now would we? :D
     
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    @AndyTheSilent Yes m8 go for it....very nice bit of kit (albeit at an almost extortionate price......but you hey what you pay for I guess, so absolutely no regrets here!)

    I'm right handed (trigger finger on my right hand) and got the left handed version....you feed the mag in from the left side of the rifle......BUT I rotate the mag with my right forefinger (I know, I know :rolleyes:)

    Reason being is I always bench rest and I like to leave my left arm/hand tucked into my armpit, or holding onto a stock sock, in exactly the same place throughout the shot/magazine cycle (as per the cheek weld also) all
    I have to do then is cock the rifle (with my right hand), reach forward with my right forefinger and click the mag downwards (dead easy and don't even have to look) and push the bolt forward and continue....only my right hand moves....works for me :)

    BTW am I right in think that the only difference between the s400 and s410 is the addition of the integrated magazine on the s410.....they're identical in every other way?
     
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    I believe so. The 410 has the mag with the indexing post whereas you have to manually index a Rowan mag system on a 400. Other than that I believe the barrels/airtubes/action/internals and stocks are as near identical as makes no difference.
     
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    That's a useful piece of information and now knowing the bracket will take both LH an RH mags I might invest in a RH magazine for the same reasons as described by bobbydazzler ie using just the one hand for benchrest shooting. I'll try the right hand rotating left hand magazine first though! :up:
    Jim
     
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    The mags have a cut out on the side to facilitate indexing with your thumb. So a LH mag will be more difficult to index from the right.
     
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    If you want to swap a LH mag or 2 for RH ones I'll happily oblige if in .22 of course.
     
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    That is correct m8 re. the cut out in the magazine but unless you have fingers like a gorilla (I don't) it's simple to just put your fingertip onto the 'star' wheel of the mag and click it down one.
     
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    Good point, but not difficult to file or use a Dremel to make a cut-out for RH use.
    Jim
     
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    Thanks for the offer but I will stick with those I have
    All best
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