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Question Riochets common with pistols?

Discussion in 'Air Pistols' started by 3CM, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. 3CM

    3CM Engaging Member

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    Got an hw45 and I mount my targets on a large chunk of green oak and get a lot of pellets bouncing back and hitting me. One went up my sleeve and hit my watch the last time I used it.

    Is it because the power is less than a rifle, as the pellets stick into the wood with that.

    Prefer wood as the pellet trap is quite noisy, plus my mate has it.
     
  2. PandaMan

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    Yes, it's because the power is lower with pistols.
     
  3. StayingProne

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    Yup, same with my springer pistol. I use a half inch thick 18" square slate floor tile as a backstop. Pellets from the rifle mushroom to 2mm thick discs. The pistol rounds (shooting at around 4 ft/lb) dont compress as much on impact, and sometimes come back at me, but with the lower power of the pistol and the slate taking most of the brunt, they never come back fast enough to bother me, normally slow enough to see it coming :)
     
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    Oak is prob the worst thing you can use it's very hard and will always get rebounds , if you hit a knot it will come back so hard it could blind you , an old carpet hung loose behind the target stops them dead ,
     
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    About 20 years ago I got home with my first ever air pistol - Gamo Compact. Pinned a target to a cork faced noticeboard, propped it outside and aimed my first shot. There was a funny zip type noise as I fired. Reloaded and fired again, and the pellet creased across my forhead! The cork was compressing under the pallet and bouncing it back in exactly the same direction it had come from - essentially aimed for my eye.
    I realised what an idiot I was and put a steel plate behind the paper target. The pellets loose all their kinetic energy flattening on the steel plate. For the surround go for some old carpet hanging, so it absorbs the kinetic energy thumping the carpet.
    Ian
     
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    Wear some glasses!
    I have a pair of normal safety glasses,only cost a few £s,much less hassle/pain than loosing your eyesight.
    You can still get elsewhere for sure but I for one would rather be hit by a richocet in the happy sack rather than eye :D
     
  7. 3CM

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    i looked for some simple cheap safety glasses the other day, but as i wear normal glasses all the time i struggled to find any to fit over my glasses.

    not going to be firing into the oak any more.
     
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    Here is something I wrote on another post. The carpet did not work for me.

    A few weeks ago I purchased a .22 rifle and more recently a .177 pistol. I went to a lot of trouble to make a silent pellet trap which has worked very well for the .22 rifle at about 14 metres and also at 10 metres. I hung some carpet loosely in a small wooden box with a pair of denim jeans at the back. It worked very well with the jeans stopping the pellets and allowing them to drop into the bottom for easy collection. Perfect I thought until I tried it with the pistol when much to my surprise and consternation the first pellet rebounded, off the carpet I think, and rattled over the "up and over" garage door which I was sitting beneath and dropped gently on to me. I have since put some "plumbers mait" in the back of the box which traps the pellets but is messy and difficult to manage and I can see it being a lot of trouble to maintain. The putty looks as though it will tend to gravitate down over time under it's own weight. Are there any more effective, easy and convenient solutions?

    I think I will be trying loose rags solution suggested to me.

    Alan
     
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    The most simple back stop I ever made and still do is basically a sturdy cardboard box filled with other broken down cardboard boxes.
    Over time if you shoot in the same place you will go through it but I have found it takes quite a time to do so.
    Also you can still recycle the cardboard after,make another one and at the end of the day it is quiet.
     
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    yeah.. oak isn't the best backstop if you want to keep your eye sight! ;)

    get some goggles, big old ugly ones from a diy shop so thy can fit over your specs (I do this too) and either card board box filled with rags/more card , carpet and sand bags with a solid back stock behind them.

    I got a few burlap spud sacks from my local pet shop and I'll be filling them with cheap builders sand to shoot at!

    I've also built a double sided pelelt guard, it's like a massive pellet trap made from an old desk top and it keeps those strays inside the pelelt zone! damn pepsi cans have tough rims on their bases and I find pellets can bounce back from them!
     
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    Don't use a hard wood such as oak for a backstop.. It's just asking for trouble.
     
  12. 3CM

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    Haha, thanks for all the advice.

    Just bought the book called hunting with air rifles by Matthew manning. Read quite a bit of it last night and he mentions backstops and a big no no to wood.

    Finding it a really good book, I didn't buy it with the intention of doing hunting but has quickly got me up to speed on the basics like scopes and the guns.
     
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    Yeah ow powered pistos just deform the peelt not squash it so it bounces back.one hit me between the eyes a whie ago shooting a hw40 at a upright log
     

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