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Rifle and scope set up. Is it universal fit?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by jmsjabb, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. jmsjabb

    jmsjabb Active Member

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    When a gun is zeroed by, say, man A. If he gives it to man B, will it shoot zero with man B or will the change in gun hold and possible sight angle mean it won't be zero for man B?
     
  2. mattyts

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    No,everyone will hold a different cheek position etc so the POI and aim points might not line up like before.
     
  3. Andy Wales

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    I appear to be having this exact problem myself recently with my rifle :(. I just can't seem to get the scope set up perfectly for me somehow. Sometimes I will pick it up and it all seems fine, full crosshair view, great line of sight etc, then I may take a shot sitting down and have to move my head more than I should have to, to get a nice clear view. I am going to have to loosen all the allen screws AGAIN and start from scratch and follow the advice given to me by forum members with far more knowledge/experience than I have.

    Are you having similar issues with your setup? :rolleyes:

    Andy :)
     
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    I don't have the length of garden to zero where I want it. I could do it on my permission and will, but I would rather be shooting properly than lugging everything down, set up to zero and clear up again. I mentioned this to a friend and he said he would zero it at a range he goes to.
    I was wondering if this would be a good deal, but it seems not.
     
  5. terry1001

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    It's more of an issue with a springer which will be more hold sensitive than a pcp. If you set you scope up in one position, say sitting, when you change to standing, kneeling or prone or shooting up or down at an angle then you will have to make some adjustments to your original head/body positions. Set it all up using the position you shoot from the most and be aware that as you adopt a different stance you will have to adapt. You will also find that you have to concentrate on maintaining the same hold on the rifle between positions as well.
     
  6. essex sniper

    essex sniper Banned BANNED

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    I alway check my zero on the permission and as for lugging everything there and clearing up ..its 1 peice of paper and a drawing pin and should only take 2 minutes max..you should check your zero before each shoot as sometimes your zero does move atb
     
  7. cloverleaf

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    In answer to the original question: in theory yes - a rifle should shoot in the same place for everyone - changing the shooter cannot change the "zero" relationship between rifle and 'scope.

    In practice this goes out of the window though; due to shooter-specific traits and shortcomings such as canting, poor trigger control, differences in hold and recoil management (springers), variations in eye alignment (if PX isn't set perfectly)..
     
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    How about using a laser boresighter ?
     
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    I've got one of them and they are okay for getting the scope approximately on zero when it's first mounted or mounted on a different rifle but you need to fine tune it to get it spot on,usually just a few clicks up or down,left or right
     
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    zero it on your perm mate then you can sort out your aim points to :up:
     
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    when out hunting (always zero at 30 yds 177 or 22)but never seem to shoot anything at under 20 yds.now i went to the forum meet at w.a.r few weeks back and shot a hft course for the first myself and all the other hunting lads couldnt hit the close up ones for love of money(all the targets8 to 45 yds)and a 177 zeroed at 30 yds will never hit a ten yd target on the cross hairs.i could hit the long shots all day long but the close ones no chance
     

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