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Advice Rifle Advice Required

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by KRS, May 8, 2020.

  1. KRS

    KRS Newbie

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    Although I used to shoot firearms pistols back in the day, i.e., .22, .38. 9mm, etc., before handguns were banned and I also spent years shooting clays with a 12 gauge, it's probably 25yrs since I've shot, but I've now decided to take up air rifle shooting, primarily for both targets and some vermin.

    A lot has changed since I had air rifles back in the 70s and the choice today is huge, so can I please ask for some advice on power type; springer vs CO2, etc, .177 vs .22, (my thoughts are to opt for .22 just for the stopping power), whilst any other advice relating to specific guns (and accessories, i.e., telescopic sight, whether to opt for a silencer as well, etc.), would be much appreciated.

    Many thanks in advance.
     
  2. Nords

    Nords Schott glass addict

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    What is your rough budget?
     
  3. KRS

    KRS Newbie

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    I haven't set a specific budget, but around £500.00 to get started would be about right. Thanks
     
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    jesim1 Kit bitch to the Stars

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    This is a huge question, and it can't be answered realistically in one post as there are so many variants depending what your going to do with it - so tell us that and you will get better answers. :thumb:
     
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    Scots Bob Donator

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    Hi mate . Try and get yourself to a local club and see and possibly try different set ups,there is so much choice with rifles never mind scopes.Welcome to the forum :thumb:.
     
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  6. KRS

    KRS Newbie

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    I'm planning on visiting my local club when possible and trying out different rifles, I just thought that I would ask for a little generic advice. Cheers.
     
  7. Jimmy Jones

    Jimmy Jones Throbbing Member

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    All I would say that in my opinion you're best going for .177 for targets or vermin at sub 12ft/lbs. I'm sure the guys on here will have you sorted with everything else ASAP :thumb:
     
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  8. Nords

    Nords Schott glass addict

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    Agreed! KRS, I had a Feinwerkbau Sport in 0.177", and a HW77 when they were 'brand new' in 0.22" (83-84 ish). Just restarted like you after that, clay shooting, 9mm pistol and 5.56mm service rifle at Bisley etc. I spent £600 on a Walnut TX200 in 0.177", with a slip and a Hawke AO 3-9x40. I would say a springer to start with at that budget. If you go PCP, you need a foot pump or a air bottle etc. All adds to the cost up front.

    I was surprised how good relatively cheap scopes are these days. My Hawke retails for around £60 and is a great starter scope.

    Have a look at John's reviews on youtube too. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY5rzh1zrsOPRx8mqpLwkRg/featured
     
  9. keithy

    keithy Keyboard Hero

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    .22 does have more stopping power in my experience BUT you have to know the trajectory very well. If you stick to .22 you will get very good with it. The only down side is because it travels slower than .177 the wind has more time to deflect your shot. Which can severely shorten your effective range out in the field. If your mainly shooting at a range at targets with occasional hunting trips then i would go for .177. You will still need to know your guns trajectory and wind deflection but you MIGHT be a touch more accurate hunting. Dont get a cheap springer stick with hw or air arms and you cant go wrong.
     
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  10. 32:1

    32:1 Yea, I like it

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    Calibre is not important as both offer great accuracy, Id steer you towards the new gamo phox kit, great starter pcp.
    Along with a used Air Arms s400 or 410, you wont need much more than those ever.

    If a springer is your thing great, a TX200 or hw97 is great but a bit to heavy for me


    Chris
     
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  11. rabbitwrecker

    rabbitwrecker Black Latex Matters...

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    :welcome:

    12 ft/lbs is 12 ft/lbs - you can hardly describe that as stopping power in either calibre. (So forget that argument).

    Forget CO2 - too many pitfalls.

    Get a decent springer - might require a bit of practice to get good, but isn't that half the fun?
     
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  12. Dr B

    Dr B Grizzly Airgunner

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    :claping:
     
  13. Dr B

    Dr B Grizzly Airgunner

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    :claping: My dear fellow, have an A+......at last we got there!!!!
     
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    rabbitwrecker Black Latex Matters...

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    But that's what I always said regarding sub-12 knockdown/stopping power, Doc... :facepalm:
     
  15. Dr B

    Dr B Grizzly Airgunner

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    cheeky.....Nup......you always made a calibre debate you old rascal.....anyway, leaving that aside, how you doing? Are you getting out with the springers and what's the current unit of choice?

    PS the A+ stands....:p
     
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  16. rabbitwrecker

    rabbitwrecker Black Latex Matters...

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    Indeed I did - and still do. However, I've never subscribed to the stopping power nonsense - surely that's the knuckle-dragging fraternity's election slogan? Certainly isn't mine, never has been. Mine's always been the velocity/penetration thing. More likely something you may have said, Doc... :D
     
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  17. Dr B

    Dr B Grizzly Airgunner

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    Over-penetration - always wrong....:facepalm:...If you got out more you'd know....:cool::p:p:p:p
    What are you using now the most, any favs in the collection?
     
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    rabbitwrecker Black Latex Matters...

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    When I do get out, I've been using the .22 99s - yes, the .22 and mostly have done for the past 3 years. The whole point of the exercise is to give the calibre a fair shot, 40 years after turning my back on it. Given all those years of shooting experience, I should be able to make a better assessment. Got to be honest, I've not been swayed, I still much prefer .177. I will persevere however, the .22 99s is so nice to use - I'm going to treat her to some internal magic, post-COVID - and no shortcomings in the accuracy department either... :thumb:
     
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    Dr B Grizzly Airgunner

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    Sounds cool, keep us up to date with the tune up buddy. If you're truly serious about hunting you know it makes sense to shoot .22.
    Just put it in the right place....:thumb:
     
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    timmytree Pro Poster

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    As an introduction, head for the review section and read up on the Gamo Phox PCP outfit.
    Rifle, scope, silencer, mounts, pump and bag for under £500. You can get a cheap springer for £100, or go up to £400 and still get something that sounds like a banjo hit with a lump hammer every time you pull the trigger.
    As soon as anyone says pest control/hunting I'll say PCP because it's so much easier to be consistent and accurate.
    I would only recommend a springer for those who are experienced or prepared to put in a lot of practice.
     
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