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Advice Repairing sling stud direction

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by tomsteebs, Feb 9, 2014.

  1. tomsteebs

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    Hi,
    In one of walnut stocks which has a pair of studs for sling use. They both are able to rotate (due to probably to bigger a hole being drilled by whoever did it).

    Now I want to get these fixed solid and pointing parallel.
    What would be the best way?
    Glue once aligned? If so what type of glue is best?

    Or recess the hole and turn till aligned tight and glue?

    Other option (for just the front stud) would be to buy a stud with a nut style and hope the bolt/hole is the same diameter.

    Filling and drilling a new hole isn't an option on this stock.

    Atvb
    Tom (steebs)
     
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    I'm not sure I've understood... Can you take the stud out, insert or inlet a spacer into the hole and screw the stud back in? Maybe try different thickness spacers?

    Or remove the stud, fill the hole with liquid cement, replace the stud and allow to set?
     
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  3. tomsteebs

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    The stud is fitted, but when fully tightened it is not aligned parellel to the barrer/stock.
    It also is easy to rotate/unscrew it. I've tried spacers directly on the stock surface but they are either too thick or too thin.

    So your suggestion of using spacers which are recessed in May be an option, thanks

    Tom
     
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    Is it possible to squeeze a little clear or white silicone sealant into the hole. When you tighten the stud it will ouze out a little forming the correct gasket/washer thickness and then when dry trim away the excess. A little smear of oil/ or a per washer on the stock first will stop the sealant sticking to the stock. Just an idea?
     
  5. mattyts

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    Why can't you fill/redrill? if you can do that, Walnut dowel,larger than the holes,epoxy it in the existing holes then sand flat and re drill the holes (get someone to do it on a press,not by hand) then glue the studs in once and for all.

    Or the easier option is 2 part epoxy putty or thick expoxy glue (Araldite or similiar,not the poundshop crap)
     
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    Have to say that this is what I'd do. If you ensure that the dowel is smaller in diameter than the head of the stud then they will be invisible.
     
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    i was shown a trick from my granddad many moons ago regarding things like this. in the hole put a little bake in soda and have your studd ready. now drip a drop of superglue onto the powder while its in the hole and then put the stud in and hold it ther for a couple of seconds the mixture drys so hard you could hit it with a hammer and not break it. or use the dowel trick ATB
     
  8. tomsteebs

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    Already done that to a theoben stock (made a thread on how I did it) but this stock (Fx stock) don't want to make new holes due to nice grain...)

    I could just araldite it but doubt it will be the best hold as whoever tried to do it before tried to just glue it when rotated in line- not when screwed in fully and aligned.
     
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    Interesting
     
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    Well Araldite is probably the strongest glue you will find,other than filling,doweling or filling up the holes and drilling new ones a bit away from the old ones,can't think of much more.
     
  11. tomsteebs

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    If I do that though, I would have to drill a small recess so the stud fits flush with the stock first, I have plenty of good araldite but I also have, no more nails and evo stick "impact"
    ......
     
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    Most of the no more nails is for filling,it has no proper strength,it's just meant to conform to a recess and stay there with no pressure upon it.
     
  13. stevemandm

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    happened on of our s400's. what i did was to drill and tap the threaded end of the swivel (m2 or m3), refit the swivel in position, then fit a mating countersunk screw to the swivel from the inside of the cut out stock (if you understand). you may have to countersink the hole to make sure that the screw head is below the surface, and doesnt interfere with the rifles air cylinder. if you havent got the facilities to do it (ideally, you need a lathe), pm me
     
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    I had them spinning on my 510 custom stock, I just removed the sling stud, drizzled a small amount of gorilla glue on the thread and rescrewed it

    all sorted !

    Any kind of epoxy should work
     
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    Hi if you decide to use "good araldite" not the cheap crap. Put a smear of Moly on the threads before screwing in. DO NOT TOUCH FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS You will find you can then, if you ever need to, unscrew the stud without too much trouble.
    I use DEVCON or JBWELD.
     
  16. tomsteebs

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    Okay so I'll try glueing and drilling a recess on the stud side so I can rotate it correctly so that it's tight to the stock and aligned.

    Failing this I'll go for the threading of the stud and threading a bolt in from the other side.
    I don't own a lathe, but I'm in the middle of getting into Taps and dies so this may be a good first tapping process.
    Thanks
    All
    Thought that glue is the main option but wondered if there were any methods different
     
  17. tomsteebs

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    well this evening i tackled the studs, using a pillar drill i recessed/countersunk the stud holes and araldited in the studs.

    this is one of those little/niggly jobs that just finishes off rifles.

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  18. DUNKS

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    That looks a great job. Just hope you remembered to lightly moly grease the threads.
    I am not a lover of araldite but it may be OK.
     
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    Looking good mate, nice tidy job there...
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  20. tomsteebs

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    Cheers

    Thought about it, but didn't like the idea of it being made easier to unscrew If you know what I mean, I used wood glues on my other studs. But these I used bob Smith industries araldite which I use on rc aircraft....

    Press/pillar drills make this so much easier.
     

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