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Remington 80 gr soft points (243)

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by jonesy185, Feb 6, 2014.

  1. jonesy185

    jonesy185 Busy Member

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    Gonna start using these soon whilest I wait for my home loading kit to arrive . They would do the job for mr fox wouldn't they ? Not much velocity diffrence between these compared to the rem
    75 gr ballistics .

    Cheers guys
    Jonesy
     
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    Bullet speed and velocity have nothing to do with it. Soft points are very different to ballistic tips in a .243.
    75 gr BT is a varmint bullet are designed to have a light jacket constuction so it fast with rapidly expand and fragment into small pieces. This is to be used for small light framed animals where no entry the bullet exploded killing and deducing the chane of ricochet.

    80 gr SP is designed for small deer. The bullet construction is not to fragment but to retain as much as its weight as possible. It will mushroom when expanding to do two things one dump all energy and cause minimum meat damage. But on light framed animals like foxes they will go straight through the carcass because there is not the body mass the slow the bullet down. Sometimes theses bullets don't even expand if all it hits is soft tissue.

    So although not much in speed there is a big difference in construction. They will work on foxes just be awear they are not the same bullet, only 5gr between them but designed to do different jobs.

    Andrew
     
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    Also be aware the ricochet potential using these will be greater than your normal ballistic tips.
    As Andrew says if you make a 1/4 inch hole through a foxes chest it is job done expand or not expand. Just the ballistic tips give a little more room for a misplaced shot.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Cheers for the information guys ! My range is more though ain't they as they are heavier . The 58 grain ballistics I was originally using are too light and will effect more with the wind . Over all with range between the both , the 80 grain will be more stable right ?
     
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    If it were me I would rather the explosive expansion of the 58 grain ballistic tip than the very slightly better preformance in the wind of the 80 grain soft point.

    If your gun works with them 58 grainers will shoot very accurately out to 300 yards. If it were me I would use the 58 ballistic tip just because they are a far safer round to shoot about in the dark.

    But really it's a matter of what your gun shoots well and what your permission is like. A lot of it with bullets is in your head I have found.
    You think a certain round shoots better so you shoot better with it.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    My rifle is 1:10 rate of twist . I hear a lot that the 58 gr is a right barrel burner I've been put off by it .
     
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    I don't know what range you are shooting foxes at but I think you need to read up a little on ballistics ect as you seem a bit nieve. If you do a google search you will find all the remmington ballistics info.
    If you zero at 150 yards

    75gr is 0.4 high @ 100yrd, -1.4 @ 200yrd & -4.0 @ 250yrd
    80gr is 0.6 high @ 100yrd, -1.6 @ 200yrd & -4.5 @ 250yrd

    So there is nothing in it really and as for the 80gr being more stable again nothing to do with the Wieght. It's the harmonics of the barrel will determine wether or not it stabilises.
    I have a very nice old Styre Luxus mountain rifle with a steel 4x32 swarovski, the hole rifle loaded comes in at 6lb very very light. The gun will only shoot 75 gr bullets accuratly due to the thickness of the barrel being very thin after the chamber. Also the amount of charge behind the bullet can destabilise the bullet. So many factors will affect a bullet even to the point that a 60gr bullet can be going to fast or not fast enough, then there's barrel length.
    If you were to buy the X bolt without the screw cutting on the barrel it would be 2 inches longer, this can also affect what bullet weight the gun will shoot.
    Hope this helps.

    Andrew
     
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    Cheers mate
     

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