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Regulator yes or no

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by 177man, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. 177man

    177man Engaging Member

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    Hi all
    Iv'e been reading up about regulators recently and wondered what everyones
    thoughts were on having one fitted to an Airarms s510 ? the Robert lane one
    has caught my eye Si
     
  2. stevemandm

    stevemandm Honorary Member

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    personally, in the 510, I wouldn't bother. find out where the sweetspot is, then keep fills/shots to within that. some rifles need a regulator ... our ultra for example
     
  3. engraver

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    If you service the gun yourself then no don't bother as its usually the only part of a rifle that will need a specialist with a reg tester to keep maintained.

    I always think if you have a useable accurate rifle then its not worth it because it sure wont make the gun anymore accurate.

    That is something it seems people seem to have misconceptions about, all it will do is give you more shots per charge and you may be able to fill it with a slightly higher pressure.

    But you have to way up how many fills would it take to outway the cost of the reg, its usually a lot of fills before you would get your money back! if it was a bottle fed gun I would say yes definatley worth it because there is a far bigger benefit due to a much larger reservoir and power curve making you constantly chase the zero, plus you would get your money back in air much sooner.
     
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    If you can do the work yourself, go for it. If you have to pay someone to do it for you, it probably be a waste of money (you won't get your money back when you sell up).
    The S4/5** series are a good accurate air rifle which should give you 60 -70 full power shots in the power curve.
    You will spend approx £250 getting someone to do the work for a few more full power shots. If you go into the fields hunting you shouldn't need more than 20 or so shots for a whole day.
    If you are at the club, you just hook up the dive bottle.
    As you can tell, I'm not convinced by the cost/efficiency/payback. Also, it is something else to go wrong.
    Don't forget that you are also voiding any warranty left on the rifle.
    But you will probably fit one anyway:)
     
  5. terry1001

    terry1001 Major Poster

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    The main benefit of having a regulator is eliminating the power curve, you can just fill (usually to the air cylinders working pressure) and carry on shooting until you get down to the regulator pressure. If you have the knowledge and ability to tune the rifle yourself ten you should be able to fit the regulator and set it up - this can easily take a lot of time and effort. Alternatively you can pay an expert to do it for you.
    If you get it tuned properly then you may use a bit less air but this is not worth considering. Regulators such as the Robert Lane one are reliable and easy to service yourself should it ever be needed. It's unlikely to add a great deal to the resale value of the gun.
    It's well worth watching all the Rob Lane videos on Youtube whether you decide to get one or not as they do contain a lot of useful information.
    I have fitted one of his regulators plus an antibounce hammer of my own build to ms S410 classic in .177, I do still have some more fettling to do but I'm already getting over 100 shots from a fill before the velocity starts to drop off and I expect this to improve.
    The new version 6 regulator is now available plus an antibounce hammer.
     
  6. 177man

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    Thanks for the reply's .It was only all about accuracy really with the less variation from pellet to pellet
    that interested me .Since iv'e been using my pcp i have become able to notice these little variation
    just because they are so accurate.But as you all say they cost would out way the result .Maybe i'm
    being to picky .Thanks again for the quick honest reply's Si
     
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    The new version 6 regulator is now available . it does not say much if he is on a version 6 there was obviosly problems with the other 5 versions
     
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    Hi
    I am a fan ....
    It made a big difference on my AT44 http://www.theywalkamongstus.co.uk/airguns/at44.html
    from quite a curve to a flat line no worries about pressure and sweet spots over 100 shots above 11 ft lbs
    great result I think
    cheers
    simon
    I also have regs on my chuntsman, And Falcon
     
  9. critter

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    I would agree with leave it as it is, Not worth the cost in my opinion. Use the money on something that would give you the most benefit ie better scope etc.
     
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    Airtech just completed reg. on my Hogan Ripley Elite, results stunning, number of shots per fill didn't change. Power up from 9 ftlbs to 11.6 ftlbs. Accuracy much better zeroed at 35 yds 82 shots 3 fps max difference, all 82 shots within 10mm circle just using my gunbag as rest.
     
  11. tomsteebs

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    I have had 2 regs from Robert lane. First is his s200 on his YouTube channel- possibily the best shooting a grouping rifle ive ever used. And 80shots in .177 from a s200 is good going.

    I've also have my fx2000 regged, this was down to 2 reasons. One- consistency was not very good due to being supplied with the wrong springs and piston heads by 2 big spares companies several times (and after £50 and lots of strippings and reassembling) I decided to just take it to Robert and get him to set it up. I now get 120 shots per fill with 8fps spread un-weighed pellets from a carbine. A standard fx2000 does that over 230 Shots!
    you can set up regged rifles so they are more consistant as opposed to more efficient too.

    In my opinion, regs are not needed in the majority of situations, and having had a s510, that didn't need anything doing to it. It was very good with groupings and arguably as good as good as the s200.

    I have a t-200 now which does 40-50 shots per fill, but that groups very very well and better than a mk4 I had which are renowned for "accuracy"

    Atb Tom
     
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    very nice specs and grouping
     
  13. terry1001

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    It would be a poor product and manufacturer who was not constantly developing products to meet consumer requirements. Often the improvements and changes happen without any notification from the makers but are happening anyway, that's how business works.
     
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    and if it's a performance part then updating it to perform better is surely all a customer wants? that's what a performance part is for, to always make better and be better....
     
  15. RichieRich

    RichieRich Ping!

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    No problems with the Mk5, He's just made it smaller for the Mk6.
     

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