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Recommend a sub £200 Scope Please?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by JimmyMature, May 30, 2014.

  1. JimmyMature

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    Hi there all, I'm getting a Weihrauch HW100 KT in the next week and I'm looking for a sub £200 scope. I've narrowed my search down to a Hawke Panorama EV 4-12x50 AO ½ Mil Dot 10X Reticle (HK1571)


    http://www.hawkeoptics.co.uk/hawke-panorama-ev-4-12x50-ao.html


    So before I buy this scope I'd love to hear of other scopes I should consider, I'll be using it for field and target.


    All advice is appreciated,




    Jim
     
  2. sillygarry

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    get one with side focus so much easier to use hawke varmint 4-16x44 are great 1/2 mildot ret
     
  3. meerkat1

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    i`ve a HW100KS topped with a nikon prostaff EFR 3-9x40 AO , i`ve got one on my huntsman also excellent bright clear scopes can focus right down to 10m not mil dot though
     
  4. Andy-K2

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    I junked my Hawke EV3-9x50AO MAP6 for the MTC Mamba 4-12x44IR SCB Ret £189.00 very well spent in my opinion.
     
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    keithy Keyboard Hero

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    I have a panorama and a Mamba and for me the mamba is the better scope, because it has side focus, the SCB reticle which is a great help, and most importantly clarity, I used the panorama yesterday after using my Mamba for the last month and the difference in clarity was immediately apparent when shooting the same targets.:)
     
  6. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Virtually all my scopes are Hawkes (only about 12 of the things), please, before you buy, look through and make sure your eyes like the glass. I prefer Hawke optics to MTC, but some people love MTC, some JSR, make sure the glass is suited to your eyes before you buy!
     
  7. stevemandm

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    for the budget, I would go for the 4-16 x 50 mtc mamba. if you could spend a bit more, go for the viper. both best scopes in the class for the money. they are both side focus, come with sunshade, lens covers and mounts, with the viper getting a free sidewheel. we have both Hawke and mtc, but feel that mtc just shade it with better quality optics. Either way, try before you buy - all our eyes are different, so what suits me may not suit you
     
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    Go for the Panorama 4 x 12 x 40 AO EV rather than the 4 x 12 x 50, like secretagentmole I prefer Hawke to MTC optics but try before you buy, either way you'll get a nice scope :up:
     
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    I have a Mamba Lite on my HW100, however if your shooting low light then Vortex and Prostaffs are worth a look.

    Thanks
    Tim
     
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    I have the Hawke panorama 4-12x40 . also had the x50 version the x40 I found was much better, couldn't get on with MTC at all , also have a2 x prostaffs the 3-9x50 and 4-12x40 with BDC rets , great scopes and imho way better glass than both the Hawke and MTCs.

    I paid £100 each second hand for the Nikons , if it was me I would put up a wanted add for either or even the 3-9x40 with bdc ret , you will need to reparralax for airgun ranges , which is easy to do and enjoy great glass for not a lot of money
    rgds
    craig
     
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    I have a ProStaff 3-9x44 BDC - simple scope but the optics are sheer class, bright and clean as a whistle. You'll need to re-parallax that one though as it'll be set to powder-burner ranges but this is pretty simple to do.
     
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    Thanks for all the comments I don't really want to mess about with re-parallax etc. Out of interest how would I know if a scope would need to have the parallax adjusted?

    Ideally what I want is a great air rifle scope that I can mount and use.


    if anyone else has some more recommendations I'd appreciate it.


    cheers,


    jim
     
  14. tomsteebs

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    Diamondbacks bdc reticle is apparently not as useful compared to the Nikon bdc one.
    Shop around aswell as prices for Nikon vary.
    But ao models of prostaffs vary from £150+, and diamondbacks starts at £212+

    Also this is a cheeky plug- but I have a nikon fieldmaster 4.5-14x40 side focus nikoplex scope I'm considering swapping for something else, so if your interested in that, a pm is all it takes. It's clean and Well looked after and I'm not after alot for it :)
     
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  15. Honest Bob

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    As mentioned on here JSR are good scopes, and you could spend the change on a supply of pellets. Atb, Bob.
     
  16. Accuspell

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    You would be better with the 40mm version - it will give you greater depth of field. Unless you have a focussing scope, then low depth of field is of no advantage. People think the 50mm will be brighter - scientifically yes, but in practise you won't be able to see the difference, the 40mm Nikons are so good. How good? About 40 mins longer shooting time at dusk over the MTC Viper, the Nikon will deal with internal reflections much better, crisper image - less apochromatic aberration, sharper contrast, better colour rendition - no whistles and bells though, the money has gone into giving you a better view of your target instead of "toys" on the scope. Get a BDC reticule and learn it - it will do everything you need. I have several Prostaffs 3-9x40 and a Monarch 3-12 x 42, which is sharper than the Lightstream, and provides longer shooting again. I was shooting rats without a lamp last evening. I had to resort to the torch at 10.38 as I could see the rats but couldn't make out the reticule enough to place a head shot without the illumination.

    If you NEED (as opposed to "would like") the extra markings then the other scopes might suit you better - for FAST SHOOTING in the field the BDC is fantastic - just lift the rifle and shoot. I bet I will have my shot away before people with fancy reticules have worked out which marking to use!

    BDC reticule - I am zeroed at 35 and the first circle is 45 and the second is 50, the third one is out of range!

    [​IMG]
     
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    :cool: sound info, I have 2 questions for you.

    What is the difference in depth of field between the 40mm and 50mm version?
    Where do the vortex bdc mildots place in relation to the nikons?

    Cheers
     
  18. Bullwhip

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    whatever happened to the old 30/30 ret? :rolleyes:

    I think the guys above have answered all of your questions.

    But if it were my purchase I would be going along to a field target club and ask to have a peak through the glass they are using.
    You might surprise yourself and prefer something you haven't even thought about.
     
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    Hi Jim, this is the difficulty when looking for recommendations . What suits one person may be a nightmare to another(different eyes ?, weird, but true !) .. Personally MTC's work great for me. I own a mamba and a viper . You need to look through them, imho, and then decide. Also, I would not be without an adjustable objective personally , but each to there own . hth, rich.
     
  20. Accuspell

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    Thre Vortex is much further apart, 30 yard zero the first hash mark is about 45, then the next is closer to 55.....so not as much use. The HFT guys are going for the 2.5 - 10 x 32 (or is it 34?) - really deep focus field and bright as the sun. Which reticule I can't remember - ask Darrin at XTX, he will tell you. I like the simplicity of the Nikon BDC
     

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