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Question Rebluing

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by fozzy45, Apr 8, 2014.

  1. fozzy45

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    First of all, thanks for the inclusion to this site.
    Myself and my mate enjoy restoring old BSAs.
    Now, the problem that we are finding is Rebluing to a good enough quality.
    between us we have tried about 4 different types of cold bluing.
    My mate bought a bluing kit with everything in it including, deblue, degrease, neutrelizer and cold blue. This cost him about £77 and to be honest he's getting no better results than me using G96 cold blue creme.
    I will get the name of his bluing and post later.
    Have any of you guys had good results with bluing and if so what have you used.?
    Caswell cold blue kit hes got.
    Thanks in advance.
     
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  2. mattyts

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    Don't actually do it cold,try heating the parts up a little,not glowing or anything,just warm, Gantongunner has doen a few reblues so I would imagine he can give you some advice,hows your preparation work?
     
  3. GIRLYPANTS

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    as matt said, warm up the parts, also use gloves to handle the parts as any oil ect will ruin the bluing process, 00 wire wool the parts lightly between coats and washes untill it reaches the max darkness, youll get a more uniformed finish
     
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    The prep work is really polished down to bare metal and degreased.
    We have considered warming the metalwork up and do think this could make a difference.
    Thanks
     
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    Yes, we use wirewool and make sure there are no finger marks on the clean action.
     
  6. kal el

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    i tried the perma blue and it was Censored, got the superblue off a friend and the results are astounding, dont know if it was a faulty bottle but would highly recommend the birchwood casey super blue. il post some picks up thursday
     
  7. fozzy45

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    Thanks mate. Look forward to seeing them.
    After a discussion with my mate we are going to try and heat the metalwork up as well as the bluing agent and see how that goes.
    I will let you know the results.
     
  8. Meteor62

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    Klever blue will give best results in my experience but like all cold blues it will quickly wear. Search this forum for klever and you will see the excellent results I and others have had.
     
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    This is what I did with perma blue, I polished and decreased and the results were not good at all, now I thought stuff it so I completely through the instructions out the window,
    I heated the metal and added a small amount of oil then added the perma blue and the finish was great after 8 or so coats it wasn't shifting. And a nice dark blue/black colour,
    I don't know why it worked so well with the added oil 3in1 bit it did
    Ste
     
  10. jantar

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    The trick I found to my relief was to warm up the parts, after they were fully cleaned and degreased, to about what they call handhot (where you can put your hand in hot water and comfortably hold it there) on me that is around 30C which I suppose opens up the 'pores' in the metal and allows the chemical to penetrate easier. I now attain an even non patchy deep rich blue. One barrel however which I left longer (by mistake cos I fell asleep) ended up almost blueblack. I use SuperBlue or PermaBlue and as most kits use the same chemicals so price is no indication of finish or ease of use. Don't forget either that it is practice that supposedly makes perfect.....as my coach used to say.
     
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  11. fozzy45

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    Looks great results ste and thankyou too jantar for your advice. This seems to be the way to go with heat.
    Thanks again guys.
     
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    Yer it's best to use heat but my gun smith uses g26 or somthing and he swears buly that all I had on me at the time was the perma blue so I used that
     

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