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Advice Rapid MFR vs Hw100 vs R10 MK2

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by smartarze, Jun 20, 2014.

  1. smartarze

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    Hi all, recently got back into shooting after about 5 years away. I have secured myself a farm or 2 to go shooting on. I'm looking for a new rifle to go hunting with but am torn between 3, BSA R10 MK2, Hw100KT and Rapid MFR. I previously owned the rapid MFR before selling up 5 years ago, very nice gun! I also owned a BSA Scorpion Tactical both in .177. The only rifle i kept hold of when i sold up was my HW97k, The HW100 is not the best looking rifle in the world but by going on reviews and knowing their build quality I believe it has to be in the mix.

    So my question is given the choice which rifle would you choose and why?

    also any advice on scopes would be helpful, I had a MTC viper on my old MFR but am keen on anyone's opinion on other scopes

    thanks all

    Ian
     
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    I think a good MFR these days are the guns to own and will never loose money if kept mint.

    But I built a hybrid mk2 last christmas when I was bored for not a lot of money using secondhand bits its enjoyable to build your own that way you know how they work, are soo easy to put together like the airgun versions of a mechano set, all interchangeable.[​IMG]

    Saying that I preferred the handling of my mk2 Rapid 17 cant see the benefit apart from the MFR reg works a bit different in the fact you don't need to bleed the remaining air between bottle and reg on removal of the Bottles. [​IMG]

    But I don't think I could ever part with my Hw100;) [​IMG][​IMG] just sublime, those germans can make an airgun.

    Never had an R10 but in the company of above I think it would take some tuning/modification to get it performing as well, and values don't really hold great.

    If your thinking BSA look more at the mk2 Superten which is inmo the best pcp BSA made my friend has had a few this was a Bowkett custom and shot really well, just heavy that's all.[​IMG]
    The best all round Airgun on the current Market taking everything into consideration remains the HW100 inmo, spending anymore wont buy you more gun Im afraid only more shots per charge.
     
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  3. smartarze

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    Hi thanks for your advice and a gorgeous selection of rifles u have there, I have read mixed reviews on the r10, seems the luck of the draw as to whether u get a decent one or a problematic one, not willing to take a chance on that! them Germans certainly know how to build a decent rifle, would love to buy both ;-) maybe if I get the hw100 shoot a few holes in the fence around my target, tell the Mrs it's crap and don't shoot straight, she'll let me buy a rapid aswell? Hmmmmmm :p
     
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    never had a rapid but do fancy one , i had a MK1 R10 which was great no probs at all but sold it and bought a HW100 in .177 now that`s a decent rifle straight out the box hitting everything i`ve even thought of getting it in .22 as well that`s how much i rate them .
     
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    well ive not had an mfr just a mk 2 never let me down and is my go to rifle . i also have an old hw100k recently aquired but seems an accurate rifle and i like it a lot . but given the lottery of whether a barrel is accurate or not these days my advice is go for your old mfr if its still good you would know what pellets it likes too and tjhats got to be a bonus ! .
     
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    great advice again thanks guys, I'm shocked to find out last night about theoben going out of business 2 years ago? what would happen about needing any spares for a rapid? also if I was to get one new would the resale value be affected? I have to say I'm leaning towards the hw100 kt for my first purchase just so I know I've got proven quality rifle, then maybe treat myself a few months down the line to an mfr or r10
     
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    Hw100 or rapid
    No r10 imho

    Rapid parts are widely on the market as well as lots of tune parts, so next five-yen years it will not come to deficite meaning the popularity of the gun
     
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    Out of the three guns

    HW100 superb and the best pcp out there (IMO)

    Rapid a little dated now, very nice rifle could do with a pressure gauge though

    R10 not for me thanks

    ;)
     
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    Had HW100 but always wanted MFR. Bought MFR in 177 but kept using my HW100 more. Changed my MFR to .20, custom short barrel and carbon shroud but again find myself still using HW100. Sold MFR and kept my HW100.
    For me HW100 all the way.
     
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    HW100kt all the way for me
     
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    I've shot all three and I love em all!
    The only one of the three that I own is a real nice MFR. Would I swap it for any of the other two???? I doubt it!

    I'll probably end up owning all three at some point in time, but my MFR would be the hardest to replace IMHO. It aint got the bells n whistles of the other two, but it don't need em as it's a fantastic rifle that I'll have no trouble keeping in order! It's in standard guise and the balance is absolutely precise for me.
     
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    out of the 3 rifles mentions the MFR and hw100 are definitely better made. the hw100 is a cracking rifle but id go for the MFR. i sold my hw100 to fund a new mfr a few years ago.
    they are so easy to customize its brilliant. and they are so cheap to fix! just look for one with the scalloped block and mk4 trigger and your laughing. i wont ever sell my rapid.
     
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    Get a good Rapid and nothing is more accurate, doesn't matter what it cost really, steyr or whatever doesn't matter, but its a hunting gun through and through.

    I was astonished first time I placed a trusted scope on and shot my Rapid 17, even before it was Regged these were the groups at twenty five yards each are 5 shots, I just couldn't believe they were not getting any bigger than the pellet, Ive since took lots of game in the field with it and I reckon it puts more confindence in me than any other airgun Ive owned, that said the hw100 is a bloody accurate machine but it wont put them into a .177 size hole, but maybe that's down to gunfit more than anything.



    [​IMG]
     
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    hi all thanks for all the replies, I have decided to go with the HW100kt but i am going to follow that up in a month or 2 with the MFR.........cant decide so I'm having both! I also want to get something purely for ratting s200, ultra??? who knows yet!
     
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    theres a nice mfr on gun s t a r
     
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    Hw100 do everything, only improvement people really do is changing the cylinder. Says alot about the rifle when only weight/shotcount is the improvement.
    I'd also consider whether your a casual shooter who enjoys the stalking, plinking and being outdoors like I am. Or the sort of personality who likes the killcount or competition.

    Then IMO I'd wait for something rare, or an unusual example and shoot with that for enjoyment of owning it.
    That's how I look at it, and tbh, accuracy doesn't cost alot, it's everything else that does.
     
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    I've had all three, all where bang on down range. I have sold the hw100 and r10 both great and miss them but I like the rapid/mfr best, they are not perfect though, no gauge, removing bottle to fill but for me as a pure hunting tool they take some beating. Also easy to work on, big shot count, if you get a mk4 trigger model it's as good as anything out there :up:
     

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