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quick moly grease question

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by lone wolf, Feb 9, 2014.

  1. lone wolf

    lone wolf Pro Poster

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    hi guys ive seen these two products and the bisely on is £6.50 the other £4.50 will they both be of the same quality and am I just paying £2 more for the bisely one because its aimed at shooting only? !BjfbfTwBWk~$(KGrHqUOKkUEtKdqeq5LBLTzmZp2Ow~~_12.jpg moly grease.jpg

    cheers guys!
     
  2. Egg

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    Yep - paying for the name there bud.
     
  3. lone wolf

    lone wolf Pro Poster

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    cheers mate that's just what I thought! well ive saved myself £2 now!!!:)

    gaz
     
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    Maybe a stupid question but does the colour matter i got sum molly from honda before but my mate said because it was yellow/brown it was no good for guns
     
  5. lone wolf

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    I have no idea mate to be honest? someone will tell us soon though!

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    I have yellow coloured stuff for my bike but I've never used it on a gun because... well, gun stuff's black innit? Don't have it to hand just now but if the components are the same then maybes?
     
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    I bought a huge tin of moly for under a tenner (3/4 litre), I think it was marketed as Car Plan automotive grease compare that to the tiny tub you get from Bisley for £4 - 5 and it's great value for money!
     
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    i bought a 500g tub of carlube multi purpose molybdenum grease for £6.99... works fine
     
  9. landymick

    landymick Keyboard Hero

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    you need the grease to have a high molybdenum disulphide content 60% or above to prevent wear which gun products have.Plenty of info on previous threads i'm sure.If for spring use Wonkey & others recommend red rubber grease found readily & cheaply.
     
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    Yep..I bought a tiny pot of the Bisley stuff when I got into shooting then walked into Halfords a week later and bought a huge tub for the same price,exact same stuff.
     
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    Wouldn't want to disagree with you but are you sure the Halfords "moly" grease isn't part moly and part Lithium grease?
    Having said that I bought the Halfords myself but think the percentage moly is lower than that in the ,very small, pot of Bisley moly grease. If it will work in CV joints on a car I think it will do fine in a gun. Would others agree?
    Dag
     
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    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_246319_langId_-1_categoryId_165705

    That's what we have,used it on a few guns and it works fine.
     
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    I think the lith-moly stuff has a lower Ep rating so depending on where its used its less sticky that the EP3 & 4 rated 'tars'
    maybe wouldn't stay in place quite as well in applications like springer springs? I once remember someone saying they wouldn't use the lower Ep stuff as they believed it crept in front of the pistol seal over time.
    i am not expert but my pot of bisley grease will probably last me for many years and i would know what to do with a big pot of lubricant;)
     
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    correct - and the colour is of no relevance - its usually just a dye thats put in because of the particular application
     
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    I thought its black because of the moly disulf content. Isnt MD black/silver in colour? Could it be a different colour if it was over 60% moly content? Just interested as in the metal work shop i have always thought of moly as the black one and lithiums as the paler and dyed ones but hey i have no expertise in this and quite probably have just believed the old wives tales I get told:D
    Would be nice to be put right as then i wont look quite such a wally next time:D
     
  16. stevemandm

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    we have used some at work that need food safety approval, and as such was manufactured a dark blue colour, and had a moly content of 70%. it was dyed blue to detect grease contamination on the product.
    when i said 'colour is of no relevance', i may have been better explaining it a bit differently - as in colour can be modified, or something similar
     
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    I would say i find this fascinating but it would only make me sound even more sad than people already assume i am:D
    I do find it quite interesting though - even if its just dispelling a few myths -cheers
     
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    I have recently applied that very same halfords stuff to a BSA meteor spring recently and it worked absolutely fine eliminating all traces of spring twang. 50 or so shots later and the twang is starting to come back. Lt2 and that Bisley stuff may be expensive but it does the job once and for all.
     
  19. stevemandm

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    as an engineer, i use certain products that are not readily available to the general public - and we sometimes need oils and lubricants modified to our spec, ie greases and oils made to a certain viscocity, and clear or a certain colour. as an example, we use mobil fully synthetic grease in 4 different colours - exactly the same product, just used in different areas of production/manufacturing, so need to be a certain colour for identification purposes.
    so in conclusion mate, if we're talking of saddo's, i think i've just joined you ! ;)
     
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    also, i'd just like to add, all lubricants are made to a certain minimum standard. while all will do the job they are intended for, some will do the job better - but these arent neccesary the 'branded' ones. some companies buy in bulk, re-package with their own vessel and label, then charge double as the product is advertised as 'specialist'
     

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