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Question Question about PCP's

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Shiner22, Jan 16, 2014.

  1. Shiner22

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    Hi all,

    I have very little experience with springer air rifles and none whatsoever with PCP's

    Quick question please...

    I realise if I buy a PCP I need to also buy a pump or bottle but I am wondering how many times can you charge the rifle before you need to get the bottle refilled? And how much is it to refill the bottle?

    I know the bottles come in different sizes but I would be talking the £200 ish size.

    Hadn't even been considering a PCP until I saw a Daystate Huntsman Regal about an hour ago!

    Cheers in advance for the help.
     
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    9ltr (300bar) is 40-50 fills depending on reservoir size (assumes 200cm3) and fill pressure (assumes 200bar)
    chairgun has a fill calculator function if you download it.
    cost around £5 to fill near me.
     
  3. Shiner22

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    Cheers Ozzy. So I guess once the initial outlay is done, the running costs are pretty cheap.
     
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    running costs are relatively cheap but its likely to trigger a long term addiction to airgunning which soon becomes far more expensive:)
     
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    True ozzy
     
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    That much I do know! I have just ordered a TX200 ( and have a HW97 and a ProSport) but I really want that Daystate now!
     
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    Type in "pcp fill calculator" into Google, this will link you to places that you can work out how many fills you will get from a scuba tank.
     
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    for that budget, you can easily get a new 7litre bottle with whip - just make sure its a 300 bar one (i believe all new ones are).
     
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    Thanks for all the advice.

    Just been to my local RFD and ordered an AA S510 in.177 with a Sidewinder 10x44 scope. It's the one with the greenish stock. Pick it up on the 30th, can't wait!
     
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    Cheers Mark, very useful app that.

    Another question, if I may...

    Is it OK to store the rifle with pressure in it? I don't see a way of pressure releasing it, short of firing lots of pellets.
     
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    Yes you want pressure left in, otherwise your seals are more likely to not function properly....
     
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    Cheers Tom, that is what I suspected but, like lots of things, it's always better to ask first.
     
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    wow, great choice mate (especially the superlite stock in hunter green !).
    my choice of pellets would be jsb exacts 4.52, h&n field target trophy or rws superdomes/superfields.
    fill to 170 bar (reading from the bottles gauge) and refill at 110 bar (reading from the rifles gauge). this figure will be about the 'sweet spot', but to determine it exactly, you need to fire over a chrono. once the 'sweet spot' is defined, i count shots from the optimum fill - its easier than always looking at the rifles gauge
     
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    My AA s400 carbine has so far shot over 2 tins of .177 AA Diablo Fields (over 1000 shots) from a 3 litre 300 bar bottle that had already been used to fill my gun by it's previous owner quite a few times. I haven't had to refill the bottle since I got it last March..!! I fill to 170 bar and refill when the gun gauge reads about 100 bar and get a good 70 odd shots a fill. If you're not liable to sit at a range emptying the gun over and over, you may wish to look into a 3l bottle for ease of handling and storing mate, they are pretty heavy things to cart around as the size goes up. I think it's going to cost me around £6 to refill the bottle to 300 bar about 15 miles away or £3 to 232 bar around 400 yards away... I'm still losing sleep over it.

    Nice choice of gun..!! Enjoy yourself........:up:
     
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    My local RFD only stocks 3L bottles (although he can order a larger one) so I will just get a 3L one. Luckily in Falmouth there are a few diving shops so a refill is about £3-4 apparently.

    Cheers for for the pellet info too Steve. I will pick up a tin of each of those when I pick up the rifle on the 30th.

    He he had a nice HW45 in there too!
     

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