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Question. 12ft lb

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Yak, Jan 19, 2014.

  1. Yak

    Yak Well-Known Member

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    Has 12ft lb always been the limit in uk, if not when was this brought into force?
     
  2. mrtho

    mrtho Busy Member

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    The 12ftlb limit was passed in 1968 and came into effect in 1969,before then there was no power limit on airguns.

    James Callahan was responsible for this!
     
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  3. Stevie Darling

    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    What was the reason for 12??
     
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    Searching around on a different forum,apparently the law was introduced to stop German manufacturers flooding the UK market with higher powered rifles.
     
  5. mattyts

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    Ah..so anything above 0.75 but below 12 is a lethal + legal firearm?
     
  6. r10hunter

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    Yes as long as it uses air or co2 as a propellant and is not in another category like airsoft or for use under water where other rules apply.
    Cheers Andy
     
  7. Fozz

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    I always thought it was the amount of energy needed to dispatch the largest pests we're allowed to shoot.....
     
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    Keep on topic please guys :rolleyes: ...................... :coffee:
     
  9. Patrick

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    Yer, I thought that it was because 12ft lbs muzzle energy was regarded as the amount of energy required to despatch vermin and other pests at normal airgun ranges humanely.
     
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    Webley and BSA were mainly responsible for the 12fpe law because they petitioned for it in a bid to stop foreign, mainly German, manufacturers from selling more powerful guns compared to the British made ones.

    Chris
     
  11. Meteor62

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    Think you may find it was the competition from US airgun manufacturers exporting highly powerful in comparison to uk manufacturers that were hacked off as home grown guns were low in comparison to the US imports and didn't like the advantage the yanks had over them. That is one theory anyway. German laws are even stricter than ours so don't think it was anything to do with them.
     
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    I think you're right about the Yanks mate, but the Germans, although they have stricter laws in their country, also made more powerful rifles for the British market.

    Chris
     
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  13. Meteor62

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    Weirauch only managed 12fpe (and above) with the introduction of the HW80 in 1981.
     
  14. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill co2 Enthusiast, HW97, K98 owner

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    This. They presumed we would all like it. :rolleyes: And they would limit the competition. How the airgun trade think of us so much that they also introduced Anti Tamper to protect themselves whilst they leave us high and dry with pre charged rifles we cannot adjust to stay legal. Crafty, clever and oh so customer focussed.
     
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    That's true, but while Meteors, Airsporters and the like were making 9 or 10 fpe in the old days, the Germans were making slightly more and the Brits got protective.
    I did say it was foreign manufacturers, the Yanks, as you say, were making powerful guns but there weren't as many over here as there were German makes.

    Chris
     
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    Those crosman and Sheridan pump ups were kicking out some real power compared to our airsporters and mark 3's
     
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    Thanks for replays chaps.
     
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    It was brought in by MP's at request of then Powerful UK Manufactures @ the Time

    Like their - Manufactures AT Policy of power Sealing Precharge Air Guns - Which is not a legal requirement

    But as mentioned - it is not as bad as many of European Air Gun restrictions

    Where the majority of Europe do not Allow Air guns for controling Small Vermin

    FAC Air Gun's are allowed if Shooters have Rated permissions to Shoot on -

    Which are not allowed on Club Ranges Unless Rated for FAC Use -

    BOB/R
     

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