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Purchasing Outside Of The Uk After [Politics are banned - read the Forum Rules]

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by MickyD, Jul 14, 2021.

  1. MickyD

    MickyD Member

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    Hi All,

    I am new to air pistols and have recently been looking into buying "some more" after I made a couple of purchases from Crawley Surplus Store, and yesterday from Pellpax.

    I have read about SWS Sportwaffen Schneider as the place to go, but has anyone had an experience recently, since Jan 1, 2021, buying outside the UK? Any issues with the big B (since 01/01/21), taxes, delivery, customs etc?

    I've also read some people have had their guns destroyed at customs, even though they are legal to own. Does this still happen?

    I am trying to decide if it is worth the gamble of ordering outside of the UK for a lower price if I may or may not receive the items. Also, ordering more than say one pistol at a time might look bad too?

    Thanks

    Michael
     
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  2. Steved

    Steved Keyboard Hero

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    read the thread about Edgun Leshiys from Spain,
     
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    From what I've read on here, especially with the edguns, run! Run away to the hills!! Also support your local gun shop :thumb:
     
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    Robbi Apprentice Leadslinger

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    ^^^^ This!!
     
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    Thanks, will check out the post.
     
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    Totally. My first purchase last week was in person at Crawley and then one from Pellpax yesterday via phone/online. Though a decent saving can make a big difference.
     
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    robs5230 Oversprung

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    Just enter "border force" into the search function on here and you'll see lots of posts.

    THere have been plenty of instances involving pistols, being bought from outside the UK.

    Risky, I'd say
     
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    Hit and miss is the short version
     
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    I mean, if it is a big saving it makes sense to try outside, but with all the potential problems, I would rather spend the extra little bit and buy locally, plus, I would rather support locals too. I am one to buy from the small coffee van over a larger chain, plus, they usually taste much better.

    Think I will keep it local for now.

    If driving to EU countries for holidays, would there be any problems purchasing and bringing back in the car?
     
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    No don't do it. It'll only end in tears.
     
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    Pun intended, right? : -)
     
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    If you enjoy argument, litigation and can afford to lose the money... go for it, Border Force needs people like you :up: :D.

    If however, you're sensible, enjoy the quiet life and don't want to lose your shirt then your local RFD will be pleased to see you :thumb:.
     
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    So how does it work, do they do car checks, do you have to declare etc, if you declare do they search you and check if it is legal, if you don't do they still search you? If they are legal here then surely it would be fine to bring them back?

    I've not driven via the tunnel etc before so no idea how it all works.
     
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    ajohn Chewing Things Over

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    No guns but I have bought several items recently from various places ;) even Russia. No problems so far or tax. Some feel this will change eventually and all items under £150.

    Delivery time has certainly extended. Reason for importing - can't buy in the UK.

    If legal there shouldn't be a problem with the gun but over £150 VAT and collection fee will be charged. I don't think I would risk it though.
     
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    Shop around and support those RFDs in the UK who haven't stiffened their prices. Might involve a bit of driving but I've noted difference of 20% when seeking a HW77.
    HW99 now go from £215 to anything under £260. If some dealers do this on models that can easily be price checked, on other models the mark up could be more.
     
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    I imagine some things might be fine, but guns might be the trickier part.

    I've read some of the comments re the delivery times, and I can say from personal experience it was a little nightmare. I was in Spain and bought a pc monitor. I moved back to London in January so shipped it to myself, and there was so much drama. I finally ended up getting it delivered 3 months later. It was a complete nightmare and was through DHL.

    It sounds like in the grand scheme it is just easier and more sensible to buy local.

    Asking places to price match feels a little cheap, I have done/do it for some things if I feel it is a big enough difference, but it feels kind of cheeky to ask, especially if you get face-to-face help.
     
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    EU AND AIR GUN LAW.
    each country has different laws regulating this, some countries are harsher than ours. You could break several laws say in France and then several laws in Germany, ( different laws to break)both with heavy fines… it’s a mine field.
     
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    Good point. Something I didn't even think about. Sounds like it is just a safer option to order in the UK. Think I will stick with that.
     
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    SWS and several others have stopped sending to here since early in the year. There are some people who have successfully got things in but also several who have had guns confiscated by Border Force and had visits from the Police as a result. I think in all cases Border Farce have been wrong but they interpret the rules as they see fit so there is no come back - gun and money lost!!
     
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    Last thread I read related to someone who bought lead pellets from Mundilar I think it was and lost them because they were mislabelled...and then was refused a refund even though it was their fault.
     
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