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Preferred range

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Jays, Jun 7, 2014.

  1. Jays

    Jays Well-Known Member

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    Hi folks as very new to all this id like to know you're preferred starting range ie what you zero at then the range you like to hunt at

    I zeroed at 40yrds and will shoot up to 60/70 yrds max
     
  2. Tim_B

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    Depends what your doing, for me - hunting mainly - its about 27 yards for the .22 and 30/35 yards for .177.

    cheers
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  3. jps norton

    jps norton One Hit Wonder

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    I zero at 35 yards
    I hunt at a distance I know I can be accurate inside a 1 pence piece which is 40 yards
    Anything further than that I leave until another day, 60 - 70 yards non fac is too far in my opinion
     
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    You mention in your other thread regarding pellets that you are not having success hunting.
    If you are trying to kill animals at 60 yards I'm not surprised.
    I shoot out to 35 yards normally but once in a while have gone to 40 when hunting with a low powered air rifle.
     
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    Re grouping

    Sorry Jay, but if you are new to shooting, using a .22 and you admit you can't group a 1p size string of shots, then what the hell are you doing taking shots at 60/70 yards???????

    Even if you were a seasoned shooter with good ability to get a group of shots within 1p size at say 30 yards, your limit would be 40 yards with an absolute maximum (if you could still get a 1p size group) of 50 yards with a 12 f/lbs air rifle.

    If you are really shooting live quarry, or should I say 'Trying' to shoot live quarry at that range then DON'T as you are just being inhumane, irresponsible and taking 'pot shot's.

    As for your question, try zeroing at 30 yards and limit your shooting to 30 yards to see if you can get 10 shots within a 1p.
     
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    To be fair zero range is irrelevant within sensible limits, its far more important knowing how far to aim off at other distances.I will take occasional shots out to 50 55 yards but only if conditions allow, 60 to 70 is too far for sub 12 really.
     
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    Until you can find a zero range at which you can place 10 pellets in a group the size of a penny you don't really know your humane killing range. If new to this that could be 15,20 or 25 yards. practice until you are confident then increase. Not nice to see injured prey escaping knowing it will probably die in agony later.
    35-40 yards max when you are good, forget 60-70 yards
     
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    I agree with above, but conditions need to be taken into account, no good using same ideal distance on a calm day if its blowing a gale.
     
  9. hypnotic golfer

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    Hi all I also am a newbie and I now shoot at a club that has both a 25 yard indoor range and a 25 yard outdoor range have zero my daystate ranger on both and using a sitting position on chair and resting on bench am able to shoot groups of approx fifty pence piece I would like to know when you guys talk of groups fitting into a 1 pence piece at 30-35 yards is that with a fixed rest or free hand shooting only wish to know so that I know what to aim for if you get what I mean I am able to practice in back garden but only 15 yard range hopefully to be able to achieve 1 pence groups in the near future so as to do some small game hunting thanks for reading my post any suggestions or help will be gratefully received
     
  10. Pidlar

    Pidlar Big Poster

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    I'd say the Ranger would be more than capable of sub 5p groups at 35yds shooting prone as a starter. Off a bipod or bench rest in the right conditions you should be able to achieve a cloverleaf group.
     
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    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    I can group within a 5p out to 35m!

    free hand I am sh*te,

    off the bipod I am surgical:)
     
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    If you're not grouping within coin sizes as others point out..you shouldn't be taking shots at quarry.

    I'm similar to Stevie,standing and kneeling my groupings are crap but sitting or from a rest (Shooting sticks or Bipod) then I'm confident.

    My MPR is zerod at 30 yard and can put pellet on top of pellets out to about 45 yards or so,my hunting rifles get zerod at 30 yards too.
     
  13. Jays

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    Sorry I guess I wasn't very clear I zeroed my sights at 40 yrds using a target I then added a 2nd target at 50 yrds then a 3rd at 60yrds and finally a 4th at 70 yrds so I could get my eye in and get used to the sight and gun.
    i have had a few rabbits but they were around 30 to 40 yrds ( this is why I zeroed at 40 yrds)
    so NO animals was harmed lol
    sorry for not making it very clear 1st time
     
  14. Accuspell

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    You are still expecting too much from your air rifle. When hunting you need to go for head shots only - that doesn't mean anywhere on the head either. The killing zone for a head shot is between the eye and base of the ear, in reality you have a target that will result in a clean kill every time of just a grape sized area. Hit the head in front of the eye and you just smash the nasal cavity and probably part of the mandible - it would pay you to look at a diagram of the anatomy of a rabbit. Squirrels are actually much harder to kill and can carry a tremendous amount of shot if hit in the body - escaping to cover in tree roots or down a hole even when hit with a .22 rimfire - I have seen it happen. Yes the squirrel dies, but not where you can collect it. The head shot area on a squirrel is even smaller than a rabbit - which is why you need to be clinical with your ability to PLACE a shot exactly where you want it at the range the target is at...if you cannot, then do not take the shot.
     
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    i think if i were you i'd be trying a few different brands of pellet. your rifle from a bench should be shooting tighter groups than this . ( given that you are steady when shooting)
     
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    Excellent post and question mate.

    All this shooting within a penny (20mm) is a bit OTT in my opinion as a 2p (25mm) or 10p (24mm) is plenty good enough unless all the above posters are talking of range shooting whilst rested on a bench. In the field the best your going to get is either freehand, prone off a bipod or knelt/standing with sticks so 25mm is plenty good enough within the rifles and shooters ability in my opinion after taking everything else in to account as well (range, wind, hold over/under etc.)
     
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    View attachment 97780 I used 3 pellets on each apart from number 4 which I shot last but better grouping I think which using the breathing technique from accuspell and more practice I feel I'm moving forward
    thanks guys
     
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    How come 2 and 3 was really tight were 1 and 4 was a mile off
     
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    Try using some proper targets as its hard to see a clear aim point with simply drawn crosses. You can download them from the internet and print them off. They will help a lot.

    Try this one as it is great for zeroing your scope and also to get really good cross hair alignment.

    http://www.charliedatuna.com/airgun_docs/Scope zeroing target.gif
     
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    OTT ?

    Sorry, but l disagree. I don't ever understand why it is more exceptable, to some, to shoot live quarry with less accuracy/precision than shooting at paper ???

    Just don't get it at all ?

    Rabbits are probably our biggest quarry here in the uk and l think a big rabbits brain is only just 25mm big ? Everything else is of course smaller, unless we deviate from brains onto heart and lung shots. And then at sub-12 power levels, imho, only small-ish birds are appropriate for these shots anyways (magpies, pigeons etc).

    l work hard to be able to achieve groups half the size your talking about and only becuase of the size of the targets we hunt :confused:
     

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