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power adjusters

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by 00kev, Jan 6, 2014.

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  1. 00kev

    00kev Engaging Member

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    im looking at swaping my r10 tomorrow for a hw100kt but the problem is the 100 has a power adjuster and he says it can be turn up over 12ftlb but he said he hasnt done it! what i want to know is will this be illegal as it can be taken over the limit? thanks kevin
     
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    Short answer.... YES!
     
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    Very yes.................KB1
     
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    Only if you do not have the necessary ticket.
     
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    im glad i checked first i did here that if its capable of going over its a firearm but just wanted to make sure
     
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    Does the HW have an external adjuster? I didn't know that. This is the big grey area with PCPs and why the trade tried to protect themselves with AT and put the adjusters out of immediate reach (on modern rifles).

    I thought that you had to have the means to adjust without special tools for a PCP to be illegal.
     
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    Would this be a gun where the AT has been removed?

    If its never been on ticket can't you simply make sure it's legal and replace the AT?

    or has it been modified so that it can be adjusted with a knob or something?
     
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    Long alien key, lol
     
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    all i have been told is it has got an alien key adjuster on the back of the breech to adjust it he brought of a chap that had it done. its a 2011 gun would that have an AT on it? if it did have its been removed as he said its AT.
     
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    I would steer clear unless the seller is prepared to return it to standard with the anti tamper fitted, You could be setting yourself up for a world of hurt!
     
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    doubt he will do that as he brought it like it oh well look for another one to swap or sell mine 1st decisions
     
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    if I wanted it I would have bought it . just set it up to 11.5 ftlbs and Loctite the screw into position . job done .......

    guys if the police got hold of most airweapons that are in the shops they could take them overpower .. if a gunsmith can take of the anti tamper then so can the police .
     
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    You don't know either if it's been turned up and stressed and damaged any internals, some non FAC model guns don't take much turning up to b****r them up.
     
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    whitevanman574 bell target champion

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    that's why you take a chrono to do a deal and fire of ten shot string :)
     
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    he want to meet at a petrol station lol hard to fire 10 shots there. the more i think about it the dodgier it sounds
     
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    I wouldn't do a deal at no petrol station ,get his home number ,moby number and go to his home and do the deal
     
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    nar im leaving it its not worth the hassle he lives just over 3 hours away thats why we were going to meet half way and do n straight swap
     
  18. SteveO

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    Trust your spidey senses! ;)
     
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    There is a carbine stock on the bay currently with the power adjuster. The back plate on the action has a hole drilled through it to allow the adjuster to poke through. Personally I would steer clear but the choice is yours.
     
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    It is a Firearm anyway. All air rifles are firearms. With the adjuster turned up and over the 12 ftlb limit it becomes a section 1 firearm and you would need a FAC to own one of these. But as others have stated, if the rifle is set at lower than the legal limit and then the allen bolt is locktited and possibly covered then it is perfectly ok. Perfectly legal. I would actually prefer to own a PCP that I could control any day than one that is fitted with AT that you can't control and may go over the limit too.

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