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please help, serious problems with my airgun

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by geiger, Jun 11, 2008.

  1. geiger

    geiger Member

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    hello all


    i just bought a new diana panther 31. since the first cock the gun was extremely hard and kept squeaking really loud.

    after a hundred shots it still squeaks extremely loud and is hard to cock.


    here is a recording of the thing, i've opened the breach and pulled the lever just before the trigger mechanism grabs the piston and slide it back again. i've done this two times.

    http://www.soundupload.com/audio/al5iba271cisadn
    (you have to download the audio file from sound upload, my antivir didn't detect anything so i'm guessing it's safe to open it)

    since the gun is still in warranty i really wouldn't like to open it up and give it a good tune up. i think this is some major factory flaw.

    pleas help, thanks
     
  2. a1gunner

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    lol it sounds like a mini petrol engine blowing through a horn:D

    right solution.
    juging by the screeching its as dry as a bone in there.
    try lubracant, lost of it
     
  3. geiger

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    hehe lol. i would really like so dissasemble the gun and give it a proper lube. but it's not even a day old. i reported this to the store clerk and he suggested me that i shouldn't lube the inner parts just the bearings. i'm guessing if i send it back and they find some other stuff in there it will negate my warranty. i bought some high quality molybdenum disulphite/graphite grease.

    originally the spring didn't have any greas on it i think diana uses some dry grease to coat them. if i'll go putting some black stuff up there they'll notice.
     
  4. a1gunner

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    well i think its best to send it back to them.
    i doubt they can say that its suposed to sound like that.
    have you checked to make sure there isnt a cat inside it!!:p
     
  5. geiger

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    lol...i think it sounds like a dying donkey.

    but i think since it's so new i'd better send it back.
     
  6. Andy

    Andy Administrative Staff Member Founder

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    Make sure that no moving part is catching on the plastic stock when you cock the gun.
     
  7. a1gunner

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    i have that on my metior.

    one thing you could try is putting something there to stop rubbing.

    it doesnt make that sound on a wood stock:D
     
  8. geiger

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    i can 100% guarantee you that no plastic is rubbing with the metal. since theres atleast 3 or more mm of space between any moving part and the stock.
     
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    Take it back

    I wouldn't mess about with lubricating the gun, just take it back.
    You should have no trouble getting your money back or a refund.
    Trading standards would say it's not fit for purpose.
     
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    yea, i spent a day works experience with the trading standards team.
    the regulations are quite strict so if you can prove the product is operating diferently to how it should then it should be refundable
     
  11. geiger

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    aha, ok i'll take it back the first thing in the morning. i'll ask for another model and hope it will work.

    but just out of curiosity. how do i retune the gun? i mean right now i already bought some abbey silicone gun oil and moly paste.

    if i'll ever disassemble the gun...how should i lube the internals? from what i've read, that only a bit of silicone oil should be applied directly on the seal edges, molly on the whole piston. and some tar on the spring. can i use a light coat of moly on the spring since i have no tar?

    i've heard that diana has self lubricating seals (personally i think thats b******s) that never need to be lubricated. even tough i've hard numerous warnings not to use silicone oil. is it safe to just let some drops of it in the chamber?
     
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    The shop have to give a refund within 28 days after that they only have to get it fixed withing a reasonable amount of time usually 6 weeks after that they have to refund or replace with the same or another of equivelant specification regardless of the price so take it back the worst that can happen is they can fix it for you
     
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    Silicon oil should never be used on metal to metal mating surfaces,
    if you get silicon oil on moving metal parts it can seize them solid.
     
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    that's what i heard too. but since my seal is synthetic, would it be safe? or can the oil get behind the seal and wreck havoc on the piston?
     
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    Don't mess with it, send/take it back ask them to fix it or you want a full refund + postage if any:up:
     
  16. Fxwhisper

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    :DThats noise is so funny

    Keep it just like it:up:
     
  17. geiger

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    my neighbors would probably be more bothered by that creepy noise than when shooting it. :D
     
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    Didn't hear it but send it back like others have said, best plan of action :up:
     
  19. Fxwhisper

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    It really needs to go back without fiddling with it to much, as not to void the warranty
     
  20. geiger

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    so today i've took it back, and said they'll give me another one if they have one on stock. they also said they'll send this one to the their gunsmith.

    personally i think that a gun this new should not need repairs, they said that they got them a week ago directly from germany. i don't think a new gun from a respected company should behave that way. might be foul play from my dealer.

    i'm hoping for the best.

    one question tough...i can't seem to come to a conclusion what oil is the best for the compression chamber. some say silicone oil, some just oil, some none? what do you guys use...i mean not what brand but what type of oil?


    thanks
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2008

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