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Please Help - New Air Pistol

Discussion in 'Air Pistols' started by TIGERDUDE, Nov 14, 2020.

  1. TIGERDUDE

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    Hi All,

    I’m looking at getting 2 Air Pistols (both spring powered) for Christmas for me and my Daughter (she is 14 and has a Daisy Red Rider).

    Just looking for something cheap for backyard plinking. I’ve looked at the Browning Buck Mark URX (as it’s cheap and easy to cock).

    But any suggestions welcome and appreciated. Ideally, 2 separate guns so we have 1 each.

    A millions thanks as always,
    Leon
     
  2. mikeyhall1

    mikeyhall1 BRIT SEALS - M & M Products - TbT

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    Beeman P17 would be worth a look IMO
     
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    Springs and pistols don't go well together, too much recoil. I'd look at SSP (single stroke pneumatic). Beeman P17 gets good reviews at a very reasonable price. CO2 is another option.
     
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    beeman good value for the money
     
  5. Pietro Beretta

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    How cheap are we talking?
     
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    Hi Leon my mate~ if you accept the style and the functions of a Buckmark, I recommend the HW70 which will be much more powerful and accurate than the buckmark and just a same spring powered break barrel pistol . (Not as cheap as the Buckmark tho, but it's much better)

    P17 is also a good choice. However I recommend the original HW40 which will be a more quality product for long lasting shooting fun.

    If for plinking, I will recommend the recoiled springer more than the recoiless SSP tho....
     
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    everyone loves the P17 but there can be a real problem with them
    they can be very hard to close when cocking
    there few good spring pistols that are good or cheap now days, even in the states
    i'm going say a Crosman 1377 and why you can pump it the level you need and i think a young lady could handle the effort needed
    i know it is a spring pistol and the Browning would work also
    you can see it good reviews over here, low power and they made it in Pink maybe better

    https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Browning_Buck_Mark_Air_Pistol/2745

    i think your on the right track
    good luck
    mike in the states
     
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    MoggyM FLM

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    the cocking effort of a Hatsan is 58lbs a huge pistol
    Gamo 30lbs and has mixed reviews
    and the P17 a lot
     
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    The Gamo is just under £50 and not expected to shine.
    Hatsan for the father to cock, P17 for both
     
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  11. twodoctors

    twodoctors Air Pistol Hoarder...

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    Sold my Beeman P17 a few years back. Regretted it ever since... Can't compete for accuracy for that price point.

    Otherwise SMK CP-1 or equivalent is also very accurate for the money. I bought one from Poland back then when it first came out. Gave it to my brother...
     
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    P17/HW40 is actually a bit hard to cock (to close the top frame to compress the air). Even some adults thinks that's not a easy job if you keep shooting it for a while... Don't think a little girl can cock it even once... . For this reason, remember I read somewhere else, in order to develop and keep the kids interest in shooting, and easy gun is a must, so co2/PCP will be a much better choice on this part... Kids would only like to shoot but not cocking or pumping the gun...

    No doubt it's the best accurate gun among the above list.

    Hatsan Mod25, I bought both 177 and .22, played them a good time but finally I sold both even with one of them I thought I would keep... Too harsh, bad trigger, hard on red dots and scopes and the mounts...

    Wondering why so less HW70 in the UK market as I just checked the gun-trader and found no HW70 at all... It's a well under estimated break barrel spring powered pistol. I love mine very much. 2 stage trigger, easy cocking, easy shooter, shoots 460fps with 7g R10, didn't see my HW40 has better accuracy than it in my hand, strong recoil but not like a beast as the HW45 which not affecting accuracy but give you much more fun than the SSP HW40...

    And the pumper, 1377/1322... If picking this one, I will more prefer the 1322 as a better plinker which .22 pellet really make a difference against the pop cans. I have had my 1322 and worked a lot on it for a long time. The plain one out of the box is just ugly and need some work to be done to improve it... Then a LOT of work and money you need to put on it to make it better and hopefully you would know when to stop... It's named 'the world's most expensive pistol' for some reason... however, I found myself don't like the pumper any more and hate to pump 10 times then shoot just once and start pumping again and went to the more simplified 2240...
     
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    Thanks everybody. Really appreciate all the advise.

    After a few videos watched I gone for the Browning Buckmark URX and the Gamo P-900 IGT.

    Now after some cheap Red Dot Sights??? (But I’ll post a new thread if that’s OK).

    Thanks all
     
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    Have fun. I might suggest some polycarbonate shooting glasses if only for your daughter. It's a small risk but you occasionally get the odd ricochet when plinking. I bought some when I felt a pellet zip past my cheek when target shooting against a wooden backstop using my HW45.
    I always use them now out of habit even when shooting into a pellet catcher. I think I paid about £15 on ebay for mine. Cheap polycarbonate safety glasses would probably work as well.
     
  15. TStarr

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    HW40 with its lack of recoil, superb accuracy, modest power, comfortable weight, lovely grip, great pedigree and German build - worth the extra pennies and will last you both many years. Hard to put down once you start plinking.
     
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    If you can find one, Baikal MP53 .177. Easy to cock, accurate, nice to shoot.
     
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    you know the Baikal mp53m is a nice little pistol but the newest one i have read has a rear sight problem
    i have the one before the last version and did a complete rebuild of the internals and there is a trigger trick
    you put a 6mm long m3 grub screw or something of the same size in the little trigger spring and that ends the take up

    but that is another story
     
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    Umarex Walther CP 88 CO2, 4” 177,nice and easy to use, well made and accurate. My granddaughters both shoot this model, 80 good shots from a cartridge , not as difficult to use as a springer pistol they also make a 6” model might be a little bit heavy to start with. Plenty of videos on u tube, good luck!!
     

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