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Pistol Target Shooting - Choice Of Suitable Pistol

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by datadave, Jan 29, 2019.

  1. datadave

    datadave Engaging Member

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    I have been delving into the discipline of 'precision' target shooting using 'standard' NSRA/UIT targets.

    As a newcomer to this branch of our sport, I've been using a borrowed pistol - a Feinwerkbau Model 90 with electronic trigger. However, I've been looking to buy a pistol of my own - but this has to be done on a very limited budget. I like the Model 90 but it's rather out of my price range - and probably beyond my shooting ability. Also, it's only a single shot pistol - fine for 'slow' shooting but no good for timed or rapid fire.

    I've been looking at the Artemis PP800 multi-shot which would fall within my price limit at £249.95 list but have no knowledge of how this performs. No-one at my club has owned one. My own personal pistol experience extends little beyond my Crosman 2240 and one I modified to 177 - which are great in the context of 'fun' CO2 pistols but not the job for target shooting.

    I would be grateful for any comments re: capability and performance of this pistol - or of any other pistol which may fall into the £250 -ish price band that may be suitable.

    Cheers everyone
    datadave
     
  2. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Nothing is "beyond your shooting ability" - regardless of your skill level a better gun will improve your scores.

    Forget any of the Chinese stuff - for a start their triggers are leagues away from what's required in a target gun and CO2 is a dead loss. Also, forget any of the multi-shot stuff if it's manually operated as it'll be nowhere near fast enough for timed and Rapid.

    Tbh you're somewhat limited on your budget as you'll struggle to get any PCPs in this range. CO2 is a pain (expensive and inconsistant) and springers old hat with slow lock times.. leaving your only real choice as single-stroke pneumatics - a couple of suggestions:

    - Weihrauch HW40: £165 new, single-stroke pneumatic. An excellent budget starter with a superb trigger.
    - FAS 604: Circa £200-250 used, another SSP like the HW40 but with nicer build and ergonomics.


    If you want stuff suitable for timed and Rapid, short of dropping a grand on a used Steyr or FWB PCP you're looking at CO2; again a pain but more acceptable considering what it brings you in this context. Nothing available new but for around £250 used you'll get either:

    - Drulov DU10: 5-shot integral mag in line with the bore,
    - Aeron BRNO B96: 5-shot linear mag that scrolls across the gun


    Again, forget all the non-target-specific multishot CO2 guns (CP88 etc) as while fun they lack the capability required for precise offhand shooting.
     
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  3. jesim1

    jesim1 Kit bitch to the Stars

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    Go with this!

    80% of it I could not have told you, but CO2 is not the way to go for target stuff, and a repeater is climbing out of your price league of £250 for a decent one if a PCP.

    I started with an SMK P700 - it was an amazingly accurate single shot PCP when you put a decent sight on it. Yes, the trigger is crap, but it was cheap and got me into pistols, which I previously had no time for. After that I plumped for a Steyr LP50, yes they are expensive, but you will get most of your money back when selling, so look at it more like an investment and it's a lot easier to swallow, and far nicer to use. The money is more enjoyable tied up in a gun your will use rather than sitting as an extra zero in a low interest bank account.

    James
     
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  4. rich79

    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    For me, rapid fire etc doesn't go with precision, you can get pistols like a FWB 65, original 10m, FAS 604 or the like for £250, the triggers are half the accuracy in my book, you'll always be fighting for decent scores of you've got a naff trigger.
     
  5. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Depends how good you are ;)

    ... but yeah, I see your point. The high end multishots can get close to doing both very well (the usual compromise being the trigger, although I suspect electronic models overcome this) and at least allow you to shoot T&R if you fancy it; which is invariably a whole lot more exciting!
     
  6. rich79

    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    I mean for £250 rapid fire doesn't go with precision, I would get a single shot quality target pistol first & learn the basics, even breathing, then move onto multi/rapid.
     
  7. GeeTee

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    Zoraki Mk5 approx £220,i wouldn't bother with any Co2,all are subject to the vagaries of temperature
     
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    I know it isn't a dedicated target pistol, but the S&W 586 is one of the most accurate C02 pistols on the market.
     
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    Target pistol triggers are 500 grams. It is a sad fact that accuracy,especially pistol accuracy, is a function of trigger weight. UIT pistol shooting is opensights, no scopes or red dots. It is a wonderful, frustrating sport that requires practice (10,000 repetitions is the norm). Breathing, trigger control, sight picture and stance, and perhaps some proper coaching.The one advantage is you can practice in your garden or in your house if you can set it up.
     
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    Gamo compact is another ssp pistol, cracking gun for the price and well inside your budget
     

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