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piler drivers, hollowpoints in disguise

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by jimmyhackers, Jul 20, 2014.

  1. jimmyhackers

    jimmyhackers Well-Known Member

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    ten points to person who guesses the pop culture title reference. Another mad one from me here so bear with me please.

    its a crap review mixed in with some what if/has anyone done it questions

    got some 177 piledrivers in 4.50mm and 4.46mm, suprisingly both work well in the p17 and i finallly have something to spin my spinner targets at range.

    not suprsingly velocity is down (i dont have a chrono but i can tell) so pellet drop has increased to.

    as for kentic trasnferance as i said above, no other pellet i have (and i have a fair few now) can spin my targets round but these can. so its up

    all in all im impressed. the 4.46mm are well machined consistant size weight and shiny as hell, the 4.50mm seem to have a graphite style coating on them to increase diameter maybe? this coating seems a lot less consitant and blotchy at times. both fire well though.

    and heres where this thread possibly goes south....

    i was experimenting, as i do, and i found out they go in backwards and fire just as accurate possibly with a bit more force. they are a lot easier to load. and they mushroom deform more, as a hollowpoint would. seems a no brainer to me <----- (just waiting for that to be quoted against me)

    i know alarm bells are ringing with the words "pellet" and "backwards" in the same sentence, but if you do use them backwards you have a hollowpoint piledriver. anyone use them like this?

    on a side note i noticed a lot more recoil from my "recoilless gun". i figure i can notice it more as my pistol weighs a fair bit less than most peoples rifles which is what this pellet usually gets fired from.

    a lot of random question and stuff there. some possibly gibberish.
    i invite your comments and questions

    thanks
    jim
     
  2. johnboy22

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    Put your gun through a chrono, you might be in for a surprise !!!!!!
     
  3. Jackroadkill

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    Transformers.
     
  4. Clubshot

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    Piledrivers was originally made for High powered .177 Rifles- where power is not limited and for knocking down larger vermin

    They do work well in many PCP's and not always raising over the Sub 12FP limit

    Small hole in larger as they impact on bone etc - They do retain more down Range weight than any other pellet design

    As stated made in UK for the World Air Gun Market Place

    BOB/R
     
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    Been using flat heads backwards as light hollow points for ages,surprisingly fun
     
  6. jimmyhackers

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    ten points to jack road kill :)

    thanks for the replies
    i plan on a chrono soonish, i expect them to be around 200fps or slower, probably closer to 100.

    flatheads backwards? have you not had one tumble in the barrel?
     
  7. Clubshot

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    You and many others are suprised when shot over a chrono

    As was the Team when We made the video online -
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    BOB/R
     
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    To tumble it has to be the same length as it is in diameter,when have you seen a .177 pellet, .177 tall?

    The head and skirt size are the same size (to an extent) so it can't flip.
     
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    in my rifle i have found a rws super h point to be more accurate backwards than forwards and with lower pellet drop and as you said deform more
     

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