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Photon 6.5 x 50

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by harry brown, May 22, 2015.

  1. harry brown

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    Well went out this afternoon thinking about getting one of these higher mag Photons for my C/F's and happened across one, as you do!

    Comparing it to my other XT it's about 40mm longer. I wont get a chance to zero it this weekend I doubt, so will have a play off the rifle later tonight and compare the two. :)

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    Let us know how you get on Harry I will be very interested.
    You may want to get a riser rail and a t20 with a doubler or a t67 for centre fire on foxes. You will see out well beyond 400 yards. It's a huge bonus to see how the foxes react to various calls at long range not just their eyes. The Cubs will start to call in the next few weeks you are getting set up at just the right time. They should call close enough to bite your foot:):) you jump out of your skin the first time it happens if you don't see it coming:):):)
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    If taking any at the moment I would only take them vixen first leave her body and take the rest of the Cubs as they come to her. Taking random foxes in the open this time of year is a little inhumane for me you can't tell if it's a dog or nursing vixen ect. It depends how bad your problem is though I guess.
    Best of luck with the scope full report expected:):):)
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Hi Andy,
    Is that the T20 with a doubler you have there? I have the very same doubler I think and that would be a good use for it! Does the doubler increase IR range or soften it?

    I have no real need to go after foxes yet. My main perms both have fox but for reasons I won't post here, it's not straight forward. Taking one that steps out in front is fine. However one permission is very politically complicated and being as I'm slowly getting on with the keeper of the neighbouring land, I'm hoping I may get an invite later in the summer over his patch.
    I just want my gun ready to go if I get the chance. Might test it out on some rabbits on the same land in the meantime.
    I have another 250 acre perm I've not visited yet, but the landowner says (in writing) I can shoot there also if I wish. It's contract farmed and I may doff my cap and see what the score is. That's cleared upto .243 so might be a worthwhile visit.

    Thanks for the advice on the foxes, I'll bear what you say in mind.
     
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    Yes it's a t20 doubler it increases range a good way with my 4.5 mag photon that also has a doubler fitted. The only issue is with some guns you can get a little flare off the barrel and it's a little heavy fitted to the side of the photon I fit a rail to mine for this reason but try first you may be ok.

    If you get a chance it would be good to know at what range you think you could see a fox in good detail it's just over 400 yards with my t20 and doubled photon xt. If you get 500+ with you new scope I may need to hit the shops again :):):)
    Cheers Andy
     
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    I need to buy a T20 torch first. I have the doubler lens due to ordering for that blue peter homemade doubler.

    Good thing is the price has only risen £25 on the new XT. :up:

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    Good price!
     
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    Lucky b****r :up:
     
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    Well I just took the pair of XT's outside for a quick comparison not using any IR. It's about dusk here.
    First thing I noticed was how easily the focus ring is to adjust on the new model, which it isn't on the 4.6 model, easier than some conventional scopes AO infact. This doesn't affect me too much as I leave the mag set for 60m which assists me to range find when stalking the quarry using the .22 LR.
    The extra magnification makes a big difference to my eyes, so will no doubt help me at C/F ranges. The lens cap is easily removed completely if required (no hairdrier required).

    So far so good!
     
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    I like the idea of them but for the amount of night shooting I do in a year, make a lamp way cheaper. But I look forward to having a go on the next range day see if its as good or better than the first model.

    Andrew
     
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    Anyone that's a member of the nightvisionforum.uk can get the new 6.5x50 Photon off cliveward (http://www.nightvisionstore.co.uk) for £409 delivered as he's just got them in stock. Clive is also the maker of the ward night vison add on (he's nothing to do with me by the way).
     
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    Well they certainly are better than the MK1. That said, the MK1 is a really good bit of kit IMO but needs some imput from the user and add on IR to get good results.

    Like I said on the phone earlier, I know a guy who sold his £1500 NV to fund three XT photons, he was that happy with the picture from them. If it doesn't meet expectations the user is possibly not using it in the best way.
    TBH, daylight shooting with any NV is never a good experience. (I don't consider 'Add on' very suitable for field shooting/hunting myself). I've zeroed this one to the HMR this afternoon, (whilst deciding what mounts I'll need to use for the CZ) and daytime shooting is a pain without doubt as you increase range to 100m with a 3mm diameter bullet you can't see on the target without a spotting scope and forget which way to adjust the digi ret. Oh' lordy!...:facepalm::rtfm::doh:
     
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    Have any of you used 1 in the field yet? I have used a mk1 photon and it was ok. Very grainy but ok. If the first XT is better how much better is this new 1? I'm keen as I can't get on with an add on unit.
     
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    Anyone used 1 yet???
     
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    I've zeroed it up now. It's same as the XT but higher mag. You'll need add on IR for a clear picture. Very good bit of kit IMO.
     
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    What range is it good for?
     
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    Shooting about 150m max for me. Visibility way beyond 300m if a decent IR torch is fitted.
     
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    Sounds very good to me. Will invest!
     
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    hello, the spec of the XT will make a difference than the MK1 photon, but i have had a MK1 3 months after they were in stock from thomas jacks and with an added I/R torch and a front cap drilled 25mm hole (plastic can cap) i get 50% better clarity, these N/V scopes have transformed the night shooting of 100s of people and i for one am very pleased with mine, the new XT will follow on to be another best seller
     
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    What ir is best for these? Is a lazer any good?
     
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    hello, what do you mean by a laser? if you look on the thomas jacks web sight they have I/R units that they recommend for these nv scopes but as in a lot of shooting items a cheaper version can be just as good depending on your budget and which dedicated system is best for you, i have not tried the new XT but they have a better on board N/V but as harry mentioned past a 100mtr range might need a I/R torch which i am sure a T38 and doubler fitted would surfice, saying that for that cost a PULSAR X 850 might be better.
     

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