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Phones & Driving

Discussion in 'Get it off your chest' started by Sky, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. mikej

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    Sorry to here that dog although your wife is an innocent victim of a crime it may end up costing you money at the very least.

    I hope your wife makes a quick and full recovery

    Yes the driver committed a criminal offense using a phone like it or not it is a criminal offense and the message that using a phone and driving is illegal is not getting across as I see this happening all the time

    Hope the driver gets the book thrown at them unfortunately it may not happen


    Eventually drinking and driving became socially unacceptable although at the beginning was looked at same as phone use is now, I hope the same happens to phone use
     
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  2. sidney

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    So I must tolerate a bad elderly driver, and string up by the nuts a driver on the phone? Even though their driving is equally as bad and their victim equally as dead?
    You may believe this law was to save lives. You may even believe speed cameras are there for the same reason.
    I think you'd be wrong on both counts.
    Then I must be shown the error of my ways by grieving relatives, a tear striped mother holding a photo of her lost son?
    Im afraid I must decline the kind offer, owing to already having identified my brother after his crash in Raunds in 1997.
    Being local to me, you most likely read about it, it made the front page of the Lynn News.
    Ill even pm you the names, dates etc so you can look it up?
    Then you can visit your GP for a tolerance pill.

    My views don't come from a naive perspective.
     
  3. Patrick

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    It may be to do with the laws definition of driving which according to insurance companies where motor insurance is concerned that to be classed as driving the vehicle you have to be sitting in the drivers seat with the engine running even if you're stationary.
     
  4. Jesterdog

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    You were probably distracted by your driving :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
     
  5. mikej

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    Sorry to hear about your brother I have also lost friends and relatives in road accidents and whilst a fireman have attended many none of which are ever a nice experience so I can't understand why anyone would not want to comply with laws made to make the roads safer.

    No need for any pm's I've had my fill of seeing horrible situations first hand thanks that's why I'm in favor of making the roads a safer place to be

    whatever you believe to be the reason behind these driving laws they are law

    Are you saying you have never witnessed bad driving by young drivers as that's not what I see

    Being tolerant I consider a virtue and the world would be a better place with more being shown
     
  6. Mortimer

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    Agreed. Anything else is pussy-footing around. Most people refrain from drinking and driving not because they might kill themselves or someone else, but because they might be banned for a year, or more, and become a social outcast. It would work well for using phones in cars.
     
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    Yep, theyre probably all racist paedos as well. It was also true that leeches cured every ailment and left handed people were spawn of the devil.
    I do wish people had the capacity to think for themselves rather than blindly believing stuff they read.
    I think that if you're not capable of an act so simple as driving and talking at the same time, you probably shouldnt be anywhere near the steering wheel of a car.
     
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    Phones & Driving

    I use a fist mic in my work everyday to communicate by radio. I can honestly say this does not distract me from my driving at all it is just the same as driving and talking to a passenger. Emergency services do the same. Talking on the phone with phone to ear however, does distract, your speed drops and you lose concentration.


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  10. M5AFX

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    It is dangerous and its not just the act of holding the phone its the distraction talking and thinking of things other than driving
    many will say i have drunk in the pub and still drive ok .....TOTAL CRAP
    If anyone thinks its ok to use a phone and drive they need not be on the road
    At least 10 times a day i miss traffic lights cause some idiot is texting and sits at a green light

    For me an instant ban is in order for anyone caught,after all we have been warned for years now.
     
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    That's almost funny!
    So when you're at the wheel you talk to nobody and think of nothing other than driving?
    That makes you totally unique and I would suggest you try your hand at Formula 1......just don't communicate with your crew though, it may distract you.
     
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    Ha ha are you really comparing a professional race driver on a none public track
    to to average driver on a busy road.
    Sorry but I had to laugh at that Anyway you won't lean until
    you hurt someone. Enough said by me.
     
  13. sidney

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    Just to be clear, I do not use the phone when driving.
    That doesn't mean I should agree with the law. There are many laws that are total bo110cks, and this is one of them.

    My point is, with all the distractions faced by a driver, why pick on phone users?
    Reading road signs is a distraction (many of which are totally unnecessary), as are advertising boards, shop fronts etc.

    But the driver smoking a fag, eating a bag of crisps and sipping a drink can shake his fist and give the bird to one talking on the phone! I find that rather amusing.

    But I forgot, all contributors to this thread are immune from any distractions and are exemplary examples of concentration when behind the wheel aren't they?
     
  14. Patrick

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    Well the fact of the matter is whether you agree or disagree with the law regarding the use of mobile phones while driving there is irrefutable evidence that the use of a mobile phone while driving can and more importantly has caused accidents and some with disastrous consequences just as drinking and driving has and does but it doesn't mean because you've had a drink you will automatically cause an accident but the overwhelming evidence is there that it can and often does,hence the laws restricting or banning both activities.
    As for the point about eating or drinking while driving that can also be an offence. In fact anything/activity which causes you not to be in proper control of a motor vehicle while driving is an offence which you can be prosecuted for.
     
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    But that's exactly my point.
    There are already laws regarding dangerous driving, so why pick on the phone user? £££££Kerching!!!
    As for irrefutable evidence, well, anything can be "proven" when there's an agenda to push.

    Who, do you think, came up with the irrefutable "proof" that we should eat 5 portions of fruit and veg per day?

    Dont believe everything you're told, scratch the surface, what you find may surprise you.
     
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    When this law came in i was a taxi driver, and i had to operate a radio to get my jobs. I asked a copper if i would be prosecuted for using my hand held microphone, he said "is it a phone"......

    i thought, i would be better off asking another copper, common sense seemed to be way out the window on this subject.

    I asked another and he said, "you're a professional driver so that would be ok".

    I thought "what a load of s**t":(
     
  17. Patrick

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    The point is by making phone use,unless it's hands free i presume, along with drinking over the prescribed limit and speeding offences liable to prosecution they are trying to eliminate the three major causes of RTC/RTAs.It wood be ludicrous to suggest that these penalties are there purely as money spinners and a source of revenue.
    The irrefutable evidence is obtained by close and forensic examination at the scene of the accident/collision and often by examination of the phone of the person who caused the accident/collision and sometimes by witness statements.
    As i've said the three major causes or contributing factors in most RTAs/RTCs are excessive/inappropriate speed,drink driving and using a mobile phone.These figures/statistics are collated from every notifiable RTA/RTC,they not guesstimates or extrapolations.
    Yes there are other distractions while driving some we can avoid if we choose to others we can't but observing a road sign informing me of a hazard,a junction ahead or a speed limit all of which are normally in full view on the road ahead and in the direction i'm travelling in are not as remotely distracting as someone reading or sending a bloody text on their mobile phone neither is a split second momentary glance at my speedo or one of the other instruments in my dash panel.But sending or receiving a text or a picture etc and attempting to look at it or to read it is.Also sometimes the line may not be particularly clear or it may break up causing the driver to concentrate more intently on what the caller is saying and therefore distracting him from their driving.Surely by making these 3 major causes of accidents and deaths on roads illegal and therefore hopefully reducing the number of accidents and fatalities is no bad thing and should be welcomed.
    Also considering you've stated that you never use you phone while driving i find it a little strange why you seem prepared to defend the act of doing so.
    The simple answer is switch your mobile off while driving but if don't wish to do that and you get a call stop and park up where and when it's safe to do so and return the call then.Simples.
     
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    Apparently it's been proven that using a hands free kit is just as bad as alcohol as it affects relation times the same, I'm employed by a large national company that's recently informed us that useing any mobile device whilst driving even if hands free will be classed as gross misconduct. (Suspension followed by dismissal)
     
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    Correct and I think it's the same for any professional driver as my company takes the same action
     
  20. Patrick

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    Just remember too that for anyone thinking of using a mobile phone while driving,which i hope they won't, that should you be involved in an accident and the police have reason to believe that it was attributable to the use of the phone they will check the phone company's records and from that they will be able to see exactly when the phone was last used and for how long.I believe it will also give them the location.
     
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