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Question Pellets Your Gun Likes/ Barrel Condition

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Virak, Mar 25, 2020.

  1. Virak

    Virak Busy Member

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    In my 18 months of shooting I appear to be getting on the 2nd ring of the learning ladder.
    Still making errors/ learning stuff/improving knowledge and my shooting abilities.
    Looking back it seems I have missed in some instances, barrel to pellet capability with probably in some cases not cleaning the barrels enough.
    All guns were bought new all 0.177
    I have 3 airifles, and from what I have learned regarding barrel cleaning to accuracy is
    1)A400 carbine( one year old 9000 pellets) - barrel appears ok for many 1000 of pellets.
    2) HW95 lux (8 months old 4000 pellets) - barrel needs cleaning between 500 to 1000 pellets.
    3)HW97k (2 months old) barrel needs cleaning before 500 pellets.

    Now this is approximate as I am trying to make sense of my shooting history and what were a few tins of pellets with up to 20% damaged.

    Nearly all pellets used were AAFD and JSB exact8.44/4.52
    However I have used 4 tins of AAexpress 7.8/4.52 in the HW95 maintainence free is this a coincidence or does a springer not need to try so hard with the lighter pellets.
    Any thought/ history to agree/ disagree/ nonsense what I appear to have found.

    Oh if anyone can agree/ disagree, but when a pellet type sits sweetly in the gun it does seem the gun is helping the shooter to target better- likely due to the brain ( in many cases blaming the shooter) accepting some poor shooting as own non goals.
    TA
     
  2. Stockscrew

    Stockscrew Engaging Member

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    'Not cleaning enough' or perhaps too much in your case.
    Technically lead pellets and steel barrels would need to be scrupulously clean before adhesion of lead to the barrel walls can take place. Both components will generally have a surface barrier layer ie lube in the barrel and an oxide on the pellet thus preventing any adhesion. There has been much scientific research on the matter of cold welding which is basically what may be thought to be happening and it has been proved to be physically impossible in the conditions we as airgunners use lead as ammo. The grey that comes out of the barrel on a pull through can only be lead oxide, a type of lubricant that is left in the barrel from the surface of the pellet passing. If this is the case then removing this film of lubricating oxide could be detrimental to barrel accuracy and the reason why accuracy will return only after a tin of pellets has been fired through it reinstating the lead oxide lubricant film.
     
  3. Virak

    Virak Busy Member

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    Cheers Stock screw
    Question
    Is " lead oxide" not a corrosion product from the pellet surface, thus crystalline pb02.
    Thus if an oxide is it a lubricant?
    From articles /information it seems pellet lube applied correctly (after correct washing of pellets) can both improve accuracy and prolong the need for barrel cleaning (am quite yet ready for another variable generally, but may try on one rifle)

    Also there clearly is differences in barrel cleaning requirements of differing guns and pellets, it's trying to recognise how to manage.

    Maybe the storing or shooting environment is variable.

    Maybe barrel manufacture is a variable in individual guns and between manufacturers of the barrels
     
  4. rabbitwrecker

    rabbitwrecker The Tree Hunter...

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    I always use quality pellets and can't remember the last time that I needed to clean the bore...
     
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