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Pellet weights not stated on the tin

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by DaveSlain, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. DaveSlain

    DaveSlain Active Member

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    I've been reading up about chrono-ing my guns as this is all new to me and one thing that's clear is that pellet weight is an important factor in speed/power tests.

    I have 4 tins of .177 pellets, 2 different brands.

    TR .177s (here is a pic of the tin: http://www.ronniesunshines.com/milbro-tr-177-pellets.html )
    Webley Venom Lazadome (I can only assume these came with the weapons originally as all my guns are Webley (I inherited the lot)).

    Neither of the tins state the weight of the pellets.

    I found the link above by searching for them to see if there was any online info giving the weight, but that webstore has obviously just copied what was said on the tin when listing the product. So when it comes to me zeroing and eventually getting a chrono, how am I going to know what I am/will be using? I am planning on hunting eventually and I intend to take this as seriously as I can to avoid unclean kills. I did find another forum that suggests the Lazadomes are 9.0g. Do pellet weights vary much between pellet?

    In the meantime I guess they are fine for a bit of practise plinking but the idea of binning 2000 rounds because I don't know what weight they are somewhat galls me. Of course, I could get some fine digital scales and weigh a few and average it, but I know how inaccurate cheap scales can be, so it probably defeats the object. I read that post about heavy pellets taking air weapons over legal power and just saying "Oh I read the pellet weight on an internet forum" doesn't sound like a particularly good defence! Am I worrying a bit much about this at this stage?

    A further question, what's the 'average' or medium weight of a .177 pellet?

    Cheers
     
  2. RichieRich

    RichieRich Ping!

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  3. Clubshot

    Clubshot Clubshot

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    Check out your local Electrical Shop and pick up a set of Micro scales

    You should be able to get a reasonable set for around £20.00 plus that allows you to weigh in each pellet

    Many serious shooters do not go by what's stated on Tins or Boxes

    BOB/R
     
  4. DaveSlain

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    Thanks guys.

    Found that database pretty interesting!

    I actually have some Prometheus Pellets too, with a yellow plastic 'tail'. Like this: http://www.ronniesunshines.com/177-prometheus-pellets.html
    Anyone have any views on their effectiveness for hunting? I'm not sure what the dome is made of but presumably the pellet won't mushroom as much as a lead pellet.
     
  5. Andy Wales

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    When I read that bit I happened to glance to the left and saw your username :eek:.



    :D
     
  6. terry1001

    terry1001 Major Poster

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    Bob is right, the weights do vary from batch to batch and the weight stated on the tin. There are some half decent scales about if you want to buy a set.
    I know nothing about these pellets but I have seen a suggestion that they are AA Field/JSB Exact variants which would give a nominal weight of 8.4 grains. I wouldn't worry about them pushing your rifle over the limit as it sounds as though they are a medium weight pellet.
    With respect to the Prometheus pellets I would suggest you try and sell them to someone who's particularly gullible as you will almost certainly find that they don't group well at all, by all means try them but you'll probably get plastic smeared up the barrel as well.
     
  7. Patrick

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    Best place for the Prometheus pellets?the dustbin.Average weight for a .177 pellet is just over 8grns,say 8.3/8.4.I bought a set of mini scales,Myco MZ-100,from Amazon they cost about £7.99 and they work perfectly,certainly good enough for what you want to use them for.
     
  8. Strewth !

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    They do penetrate rather well, problem is hitting what you're aiming at. (I tried throwing mine into the dustbin and they missed that too).
     
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    Hi Dave, if you can get yourself over to old Downs Pursuits at Cirencester one Sunday morning (opening times on their website) we can weigh your pellets for you and help with getting you set up for killing .'s critters once you've learnt to hit a 5p piece at all of your hunting ranges. Regarding going over power with heavier pellets, yes, sometimes that can happen. Send me a pm if you want to meet up with the hunting and target guys at old Downs.
    Dave
     
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    Now that's what I call funny lmao! That def appeals to my daft sense of humor LOL :D

    Andy :)
     
  11. Clubshot

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    Prometheus Plastic skirted are made for Unchocked Barrels - Not really suitable for precharged or Chocked Rifles

    In unchocked Rifles they are effective -

    Defiants are made of Lead are more effective - www.defiantpellets.com

    Or none deforming try Zinc Thunderbolts sold by SMKs - Same shape & Design as Defiants but made of Zinc - worked

    BOB/R
     
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    Current Batches of Prometheus - Plastic Skirts do not shred in most barrels
    Was changed some time ago

    But as often State they are made for Unchocked Barrels - Main appeal is they do not flatern in Sub 12FP Guns

    Can not believe that there is still a market for them - But aware numbers order from Factory suprises All concerned
    Bills have to be paid -

    Noticed that several other Manufactures have brought out their versions - For USA Market and other places that are Banning and Restricting Lead Air Gun Pellets - Yes Pax's patient has expired -

    BOB/R
     
  13. DaveSlain

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    Thanks for the heads up, I might well do that. I'm in Bristol but the in-laws are in Gloucestershire so not much of a detour one weekend hopefully. I'm making myself a pellet trap at work tomorrow (I've got about two boxes of Gamo targets to play with) and I'll practice zeroing in my basic scope (4x20) and practising. Its been about 8 years since I've used this rifle.

    Another question for you chaps.

    When a pellet is deformed in the tin, how deformed is too deformed to use? If the skirt (that's what I'm going to call it) is even remotely un-circular should I just bin it? Obviously its no good if air is escaping round the side, but is it the head of the pellet more important in the respect? I'm only talking about slightly squashed skirts here, not the dome, or rounds that have clearly been in a mangle/squashed underfoot.
     

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