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Pellet Selection And Barrel Cleaning

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by PaulE90, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. PaulE90

    PaulE90 Active Member

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    Hi Everyone,

    I've been shooting springers for about 4 years (i have a Webley Stingray ii Quattro and a Weihrauch HW 95 K) and i am looking to improve my accuracy be selecting the best pellet for my rifle.

    My question is- when trying different pellet brands should i clean the barrel, between brands, to ensure that that barrel is leaded with that particular pellet brand?
    I found one article, linked below, which says that all i need to do is to fire '20 pellets or so' pellets to sufficiently lead the barrel- no cleaning.

    http://www.airgunshooting.co.uk/exp...ve-the-right-pellet-for-your-airgun-1-4862538

    Im looking to test my HW 95 K and looking to test the following branded pellets- H & N field target trophies, JSB exact diabolos, Daystate Rangemaster Sovereign and Weihrauch pellets.
     
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    PHOENIXFLIER Engaging Member

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    I have recently gone through this procedure. After cleaning the barrel my grouping was worse!. Just plug and play now, and consistent grouping has returned.
     
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  3. PaulE90

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    Thanks for replying so quick. That was my worry if i clean the barrel- that i would have to put, possibly lots, of pellets before the accuracy returns which would give me mix results when testing. Think i will skip the cleaning and fire about 50 pellets from each brand and see how i get on.
     
  4. Scubashot

    Scubashot Busy Member

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    The Weihrauch F&T Special pellets are the same as the H&N FTT pellets but in 4.51 or 5.51mm.
    The same applies to the Weihrauch FT-Exact which are a 4.51 or 5.51 mm version of the JSB Exact.
    Weihrauch claim to finish their barrels to 4.51 and 5.51 mm and therefore market their pellets in those sizes.
    They certainly work well in my 0.22" HW77 and HW100S as pellet testing indicates them to have the highest muzzle energy and be most accurate.
     
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    mikeyhall1 BRIT SEALS - M & M Products - TbT

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    Personally I switch without cleaning.
     
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    Why woukd Weihrauch choose to finish their barrels to that size can I ask ?
     
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    I'm no expert but I've tried both methods when pellet testing my compatto.

    I found firing approx 50 pellets (no cleaning) got the grouping to about as small as it would be.
    The group size wouldn't change much even if I carried on & fired half a tin.

    I didn't do this with all pellets, some were so unsuitable that I wish I hadn't bothered firing 50.
    I only fired more than 50 with the pellets that it liked & for testing to see how the groups opened up at different ranges.

    Cleaning the barrel between each pellet was time consuming & I noticed no improvement Vs just firing 50.

    I tried to make this as fair as possible by testing the same pellets that I'd just tested, but cleaning in between rather than just firing 50.
     
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    It's a long time since I did any serious pellet testing but when I did I tried all methods.
    No cleaning,
    just shooting means having to put quite a few pellets up the spout before the results settle down. Going back to known good pellets also took a while to return to any kind of accuracy.

    Full cleaning.
    Over the chrono this dropped power quite significantly but crept up slowly over 20 shots. Another 30-50 to lead in properly.

    Dry pull through.
    Once or twice worked best, I found the barrel leaded in quicker with just a dry pull through. generally within 20 shots.
     
  9. PaulE90

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    Thanks,

    I think i will try the dry pull through method and see how i get on. The dry pull through method seems to be the happy medium between not cleaning at all and doing a full clean.
     
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    So correct me if i'm wrong but it sounds like the H & N, JSB and Weihrauch pellets are more or less the same pellet just in a different tin? and that all i really have to settle on is the best head size?
     
  11. PHOENIXFLIER

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    Paul, I would not get hung up on pellet head size. Apparantly, the average tin contains a mix!. I tried measuring them once, but gave up and went to the pub. To establish the best pellet for your gun, purchase a trial box of pellets from Pellpax. I bought 20 different types from them, and after much testing (fun), and by a process of elimination (more fun), found the most consistant pellet for my gun. Some guns are more "pellet fussy" than others, so its definately worth a go. Hope this helps.
     
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  12. Scubashot

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    The two Weihrauch pellets are essentially rebadged H&N FTT and JSB Exact in the 4.51 and 5.51mm sizes.
    I believe that Hull Cartridge often quote that the finished size of Weihrauch is as stated. Whether they are made to 4.5 and 5.5 mm and the finishing process removes the extra material I couldn't say. If you are interested try e mailing Weihrauch or call HC and ask.
     
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    I'm regularly fettling/tuning springers for shooting buddies just out of interest and for fun.
    Proper barrel cleaning/polish is one of the main tasks.

    Finding the right pellet is a learning process and I don't clean the barrel in between as long as grouping is (still) acceptable.
    Starting with the softer pellets (usually JSB) I switch to HN, then to RWS. If nothing groups nicely I'll try some lead free ones too preferably HN FTT green and HN Baracuda green.

    While working with the lead pellets the change of type / head size usually requires just 5 to 10 more or less erratic shots to produce clear stable results, switching between brands may take up to 20 - 25 shots (usually not more).
    From lead to lead-free not more than 5 - 10, back to lead maybe up to 20.

    Any change in spring length or preload usually changes the whole game and pellet finding process starts all over again.
     
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    I never bother anymore and that includes cleaning the barrel "unless" something goes drastically awry that is...
     
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    That's what the Mrs said
     
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