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Question Pellet Mysteries: What is happening to Pellets?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by datadave, Mar 13, 2012.

  1. datadave

    datadave Engaging Member

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    :confused: I recently bought a tin of 22 Hobby to use in my 16-year old BSA Supersport Custom Carbine. They looked different to the remnants of an 'old' tin, with the old green lid, being more silvery, brighter (yes, I know they are new) and I think, harder. More importantly, they were much tighter in the breech than the 'old' ones and quite difficult to 'thumb in'. Does anyone know of any changes in the manufacturer/manufacturing process/alloy used etc of these pellets?

    This spurred me into looking through my pellet stock and I found an old (blue) tin of IMI Eley Wasp pellets. The tin was labelled 'No.2 (.22) 5.6mm'. These were a 'nice' fit in the breech, thumbing in easily without showing signs of being a sloppy fit. I decided to look at some figures: .22" = 5.588mm; 5.6mm = 0.2205" and 5.5mm = .2165". So, in a gun as old as my Supersport, which presumably has a nominal .22 barrel rather than a 5.5mm, I would have expected the 22 Hobby - nominally 5.5mm - to be a looser fit in the breech than the No.2 Eley Wasp.

    Incidentally, who manufactures Wasp now? They certainly don't appear to be the pellet they once were. I notice that a lilac-coloured tin labelled 'Wasp No.3. (.22) 5.5mm' didn't carry the label 'Eley' or IMI! According to the figures, these should be the ones to use in the SS - and should be tighter in the breech than the Hobbies!

    :rolleyes: Light on the mystery, please!

    Cheers - datadave
     
  2. mattyts

    mattyts Donator

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    where the old tin you mentioned gecos? other wise in my hatsan hobby's are tight in the breach but shoot fine and there still cheap
    Wasps are owned by bisley now but im unsure who acctually owns the tooling that makes them.some wasps are very tight,impossible to get into the breach and some slide in then when i bring the barrel back up fall out of the breach
     
  3. Bolor

    Bolor Banned BANNED

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    The wasp tooling was broken up many years ago and there has been a couple of diferent types over the years. They are now budget plinking pellets along with the likes of bulldogs and spitfires. They are ok for short range plinking fun but not for hunting. Try rws superdomes for a reasonable priced pellet that shoots straight.
     
  4. datadave

    datadave Engaging Member

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    The old tin was definitely Hobbies - in the old style green tin. I find that the 'new' tin Hobbies shoot fine in the Ole Lady's Crosman 2240. I'll certainly give the S'domes a try - not tried them in 22 but they seem fine in 177 - although less 'universal' than JSB Exact - which seem to suit most guns I've tried them in.

    Cheers - datadave
     
  5. datadave

    datadave Engaging Member

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    Hi Bolor

    Yes, I think that the S/domes may be worth a try. I've had reasonable results with 177 in certain guns but not tried the 22 in the BSA. Certainly will, though. I've really lost touch with what's what in 22 - shooting almost exclusively 177 now. Shame that what was once considered a 'quality' pellet has now joined the ranks of the 'cheap plinker', though. C'est la vie!

    Cheers - datadave
     
  6. mattyts

    mattyts Donator

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    superdomes are great but gone up in price now,yup hobbies are great in my .22 springer aswell as .177 pcp
     
  7. reaper6

    reaper6 Banned BANNED

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    Superdomes work well in any Weihrauch.....good value for money
     
  8. mattyts

    mattyts Donator

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    superdomes work well in any gun,hobby's seem to be hit and miss,they work in one of my s400s but not in the other
     
  9. darklord

    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    They dont in my hw100 .22 just cal me machine gun kelly.
     
  10. Egg

    Egg Major Poster

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    Domes or Field - good quality pellets all round that love German barrels :up:
     
  11. JD

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    Pellet dies/moulds wear out and when new dies are made, they do not always get it right, alot of pellets have changed in appearence, weight and size. John Darling would say, Buy as many pellets as you can afford from the same batch, that work in your rifle, i do wonder how long 50,000 pellets would last ?
     
  12. Gizza22196

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    bought 5000 superdomes the other day, im onto the last 20 of my older batch so i hope this new batch will be as accurate
     
  13. bradleymarky

    bradleymarky Keyboard Hero

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    I bought 10 different makes of pellets a couple of weeks ago and the superdomes were the best followed by the accupell, might seem strange but they dont smell the same as they did when i was a lad !
     
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    lewis850 Keyboard Hero

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    were you get them from gizza ?? link please mate
     
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    Of all the things you could sniff, you choose pellets, been there, done that, but never put pellets in my mouth though, how many used to do that ?
     

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