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PELLET CLEANING

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by stevemandm, Feb 4, 2014.

  1. stevemandm

    stevemandm Honorary Member

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    i know its a hotly debatable subject - to clean or not ?, but i am a firm believer in doing so.
    those that know me, know i am an engineer by trade, so i am familier with most engineering and manufacturing processes. as far as the pellet manufacturing process goes, it always produces swarf or slivers. these contaminants (bits of lead) usually end up sticking to the machinery, in particular the dies used in the process. whilst most of the contaminants get blown away, or fall off, some stick to the pellets (in the hollow internal of the skirt, or to the outside due to the manufacturing lubricant), and invariably, end up on the final product in the tin. the lead contaminant that sticks to the dies, is also subject to continuous fluctuations in temperature, so the final hardness could be affected (ie, some bits harder or softer than others). if this contaminent is fired down the barrel, it could either cause spots of inconsistancy in the barrel leading, or if it stays on the pellet, cause an inbalance, ultimately affecting accuracy. all these 'problems' incurred with 'dirty pellets' may be negligable at short range, but at longer range, could be more pronounced. i'm a firm believer in removing all the variables that you can in order to give you the best possible shot, and this includes pellet cleaning.
    also, after cleaning, you need to lube the pellets to stop them from oxydising, and for this i use LT1.
    below is a couple of photo's of the 'contaminants' left after cleaning 1 tin of jsb exact express - these, in my experience, are among the cleanest of pellets straight out of the tin anyway. also, the photo's show the 'contaminants' that came from the pellets, and doesnt include that in the bottom of the tin.

    food for thought eh ? .....

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  2. Stevie Darling

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    I clean all my smalls:)
     
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    I agree Steve,i always clean mine aswell,it quite shocking how much swarf you get in some tins! i always lube mine with a little spray of ballistol after they've dried.

    Stan.
     
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    hello, your cleaning method would be usefull too?? and drying out process. i never thought to do this in all the years of having airguns, also as a retired engineer/welder i understand what you descibe on processes so i think i will give this a go although at the mo my supply of .177 and .22 AAs JSBs and superdomes for a springer are lubed. i am nearly out of AAs .22 so when i open a new tin i will do as you describe steve and see how goes. cheers
     
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    my cleaning process is as follows.
    1. fill a bowl with hot water and mix in a few drops of washing up liquid.
    2. put the tin of pellets into a fine mesh collander and clean out empty tin.
    3. lower the collander into the bowl (1) and leave for a couple of minutes. then, swirl around the pellets, while keeping submerged.
    4. rinse the collander of pellets in clean water.
    5. repeat steps 3 and 4.
    6. gently shake the excess water from the pellets, tip onto some kitchen roll, and leave to dry off (i put them on top of a double radiator).
    7. apply the pellet lube when thoroughly dry. before this, i heat up the pellets with a hair dryer, so that the lube thins out and thoroughly coats the pellets).

    this process appears time consuming, but in reality, tales less than ten minutes in total
     
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    for what its worth, rws pellets are the cleanest that i have ever seen (straight out of the tin).
    also, i never lube the pellets without first cleaning - you dont know what 'crap' the tin contains
     
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    I tried this for a while, cleaning & lubing, but never noticed any difference, probably because as you say I wasn't really shooting at any range - but there's plenty of people on various forums who have noticed a real difference.
    If you are chasing single hole groups at any significant range I think you would have to do this, & I certainly would.
     
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    hello, well despite the dreaded flu i popped down to the £shop and bought a sievey well 2 for 1 £ actualy and having 2 full tins of AA .22 diablo field 5.5mm which i only use in my AA S410 for ratting proceeded to give them a wash as per steve directions, 100 per wash in warm soapy water in the sieve a few good shakes then cold wash. 5 times done and all spread out on dry towel. a good and carefull shake of the towel and transfered to a clean hanky and now bathing on the hot rad!!! oh and me too ha ha. i will leave on rad until i can see no signs of H2o and replace in tin and like steve i am a great believer in pellet spray so with a new bottle of LTL coming these will be done too, as many know the AA mags are a bit prone to crud up and need a slight lube and with the pellet lube they go in the breech with ease oiling the seal to. so then i check the old soapy water and could not believe the amount of lead bits left. so i think another good idea as per the forum and will be doing the .177 JSBs i use in a FX MAG and which i hope will keep both mags working for many years. cheers chaps
     
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    glad you approve mate. read my post (#8) on how i use the lt1. unbelievable the crap that is left in the water - just think, that would have ended up down the barrel !
    ps, that man flu thing is a bummer, aint it ?
     
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    hello, sent from sitting on my hot rad :D!!! yea thought i would get away with it this year:rolleyes:
     
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    I've seen a few references to this for maintenance etc but not for pellet cleaning. Is there any possibility it can cause dieselling?
    oh, and for the Man Flu see the attached!
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    Cheers Steve you've made a convert out of me,I never bothered cleaning before I usually add fluff and dust from my pocket:) but when my new gun arrives I will be washing.
     
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    and clean the barrel first !
     
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    ive only cleaned my pellets once because the tin spilt in the back of the van and got covered in sawdust, so washed them but no lube, tbh i did not notice a difference but i dont relay shoot groups,

    the inside of my pellet poutch had bits in off the pellets even tho my pellets look clean from the tin. think i will pick some lube up and give my next tin some "luvin"
     
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    I've been using it for quite some time now mate and i've never noticed any signs of dieseling.

    Stan.
     
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    In my attempts to further ones Ft ability, I draw my conclusions from advise and then trial from some of the countries top Ft shooters, one of the fortunate by products of occasional club use.
    However, none of these "AA" shooters washes pellets!
    Indeed, most use JSB Exact straight out of the tin. I know of one who occasionally sizes and lubes only.
    Groups from these shooters are often sub 15mm at 55 yards.
     
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    If you're gonna put lube on pellets,you might aswell go the whole way and wash them,otherwise you're just putting lube onto dirt...which gunks up
     
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    If you don't wash before lubing, you end up with a gray pellet stew!

    Or the wife won't come near you:D
     
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    From my results, What rubbish:down:!

    Pellets needed washing in 1989, but current JSB Exact dont !
     

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