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Pellet Change

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Tan, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. Tan

    Tan Donator

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    Hello.

    A couple of members were kind enough to send me pellet samples for my S410F in .22 -- as I wanted to try an alternative to AA Diablo 5.52s.

    Of them all, the ones that seem to work really well, actually unbelievably well, have been RWS Superdomes. I cannot begin to tell you how much fun I had in the club last night plinking with them. I went from 10p sized groups to 5p sized ones pretty much immediately.

    So, thank you very much to Stevie76 and stevemandm for being so kind and helpful. I really am pleased.

    T.
     
  2. stevemandm

    stevemandm Honorary Member

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    rws pellets (particularly the superdomes) are one of the most underrated, well made and gun friendly pellet going - and its a massive bonus that they are also among the cheapest to buy.
    glad they impressed you tan, i thought they would mate ;)
     
  3. Tan

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    The price is a massive bonus in itself -- can't believe they are almost a fiver cheaper than what I was paying for the Diablo's. I'm so chuffed, I feel like I've been given a brand new rifle!

    T.
     
  4. stevemandm

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    nearly half price and twice the accuracy - nothing to dislike mate !
    did you buy a full tin then, and did you notice how shiny and well made they look ?
    a good sign, is that theres no debris left in the bottom of the empty tin
     
  5. Stevie Darling

    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    I wish my rifle liked them,

    cheaper, and almost everywhere stocks them!
     
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    Have you tried them at longer range ?

    It may not be relevant to your shooting but they drop off much faster beyond 30 yards than the likes of JSB Exact and Air Arms Field.

    Out to 30 yards or so most of my guns love them (there's got to be something wrong with that "most of my guns" statement :rolleyes: ) but after 30 yards they drop like a stone by comparison.

    Just thought I'd mention it in case it might be an issue to you :D
     
  7. Tan

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    Yes, bought a tin at the club yesterday for £8.00. And yes, they looked nice and clean.

    T.
     
  8. Tan

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    I shoot mostly between 30 and 45 yards, so not a massive issue for me. But if there is a drop, then I could always keep a tin of the Diablos for occasional use. Will know more if I go to Furnace Mill on Saturday...

    T.
     
  9. yorkshireshoot

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    Never tried super domes in my s410 .177 may give em a go myself . I did however get some jsb exacts and before using them cleaned my barrel for first time as rifle was new and the amount of crap that came out was unbelievable ! 7 pull throughs ! Put about 50 pellets through whilst re zeroing , and the results are amazing , did hft course for first time and got a pretty decent score so well chuffed !
     
  10. mattyts

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    I use both sizes of Superdomes in my springers and found them better than Superfields and JSBs which where pretty dear
     
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    My springer got on well with Superdomes but registered a full 1ftlb lower over the chrono than the lighter Falcon Accuracy Plus and heavier RWS Superfields. I would have had a shock if I'd set the rifle up to around 11.4ftlb on the mid weight pellet then tried the others..!!
     
  12. Tan

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    Last week, SteveO_R10 was kind enough to take time out and come to my house to chrono my S410F. Along with his Combro Mk4 Chronograph, he also bought a selection of pellets in .22.

    The first pellet we tried was Bisley Magnums (21.4g). The first shot couldn't be counted because the Combro had to be adjusted, but for the remaining nine, this is what we got:

    10.85
    10.89
    10.33
    10.93
    10.91
    11.06
    10.78
    10.96
    10.64

    Then we moved on to Air Arms Field Diablo (16g). These were the only pellets I was using until recently. From a string of 10 we got:

    10.39
    10.33
    10.40
    10.47
    10.33
    10.34
    10.53
    10.20
    10.48
    10.25

    RWS Superdomes (14.5g) were third on the list. These are the pellets I am currently using, and I find them to be fantastic, and really regret not having started using them earlier. They came out as:

    10.09
    10.02
    10.01
    10.05
    9.95
    10.04
    10.01
    10.02
    10.12
    10.05

    Finally, Falcon Accuracy Plus (13.43g) were tested:

    9.84
    9.79
    9.73
    9.88
    9.83
    9.75
    9.88
    9.84
    9.84
    9.83

    While I was relieved that my rifle was well within the legal requirement (which is a concern for any responsible air rifle owner), I was also disappointed that it had dropped from the original 11.3 it used to be. Now I don't know why this has happened, but I want it to go back to that. My rifle is AT, and is a summer 2012 model. Although it comes with a lifetime warranty from The Airgun Centre, the question is will they really do much if I send it back to them? Having discussed this with Steve, we felt that maybe it might be better to not send it if they would only increase the power by a fraction. So where does that leave me? A regulator? Removal of AT and adjust myself?

    Would appreciate some feedback from people who've been in a similar situation.

    T.

    P.S. Many thanks to Steve for his help. I know he has a lot of responsibilities, so to drive to the other side of the city was a lovely thing to do. A true gentleman, and a scholar.
     
  13. mattyts

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    Remove it yourself but be sure to run lots of tests with about as many pellets as you can lay your hands on, be sure to cover the effects of weights,head sizes and type of pellet and ensure they are all well within legal range and won't get close to the limit (Warm days will also increase power)
     
  14. mattyts

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    And get yourself a chrono,dosen't have to be fancy,a combro will do fine.
     
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    I agree with this my AA410 .22 loves super domes.The ones i have are old type(orange tin) well over 15 years old from when i could afford to buy in bulk.Now the savings aren't that good.
     
  16. stevemandm

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    personally tan, i would be aiming for 11.4ftlb with the bisley mags - this gives you room for any variables that may push the power up slightly. based on that, you are only a couple of percent off that figure. other than leave it alone, i would get the at removed. that way, you would be in total control of the power.
    but why not get the shop to increase the power slightly, it is guarenteed, and it would be free - i imagine that the fitting of a regulator or removal of the at would invalidate the warrenty
     
  17. Tan

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    I am in two minds about removing the AT. I know some do and some don't, but having been thinking about it, I would rather not do anything that invalidates the warranty. I just thought it's gonna be too much of a ball ache to get it back to them (I do not like the idea of posting it, even with the most reliable company on the planet). The only option would be to drive there myself. They did tell me that if I was to bring it in first thing, I could have it back by the end of the day.

    T.
     
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  18. AirArms456

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    could anybody tell me what size accupells are? cheers
     
  19. mattyts

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    4.5mm or 5.5mm :p

    Webleys site just says 5.5mm,I suspect they are probably 4.51 or 5.51
     
  20. AirArms456

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    Yeh sorry they are .22
     

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