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Pellet advice please

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Eclipsetuned, May 2, 2014.

  1. Eclipsetuned

    Eclipsetuned Member

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    Hi All,

    I would appreciate your advice on the following please.

    I have a Webley Eclipse .22 which has recently been overhauled. I require some new pellets. Over the years I have used Eley Wasp .22 (light blue tin) which to me seem to have worked well and do fit quite snugly in the rifle. I am not against a change though.

    I have recently been given some advice that perhaps suggests that the Eley Wasp I have used are a dated pellet and there are better available. This might have been a sales tactic.

    I require the pellets for short range shooting (around 12-15 metres) in the garden for shooting pigeons and squirrels (which the Eley sometimes struggled with). I'm not really after anything budget.

    On a slightly different subject, I have some Webley 'Weboil' lubricant. I would like advice on where I should apply this and how much.

    I would appreciate suggestions please.

    Many Thanks




    Eclipsetuned
     
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  2. stevemandm

    stevemandm Honorary Member

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    a great starting point for pellets would be rws superdomes - probably the most universally pellet available, and one of the cheapest
     
  3. Clubshot

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    Defiant Vintage - Should give good results -

    Seem the only True 5.6 Pellet these Day's

    BOB/R
     
  4. Eclipsetuned

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    Cheers guys for the advice, I assume these pellets take into account the target in mind

    Secondly some advice on the Webluve would be appreciated!
     
  5. Akita177

    Akita177 The Absolute State of Britian podcast

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    Our old Eclipse .22 was accurate out to 60yards with superdomes and crossman ultra magnums.
    Though 10-15m RWS hobbys should be accurate enough and pack a whollop, i wouldnt use new eley wasps at all.
     
  6. jesim1

    jesim1 Kit bitch to the Stars

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    The Eley Wasp is the work of Satan, although you will never go to Hell because you will never kill anything with it:D

    RWS Superdomes, AA field, and JSB Exact are some of the best all round pellets to look at first as ever gun is different, but these are widely regarded as good/great in many.

    James
     
  7. gixxerpower

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    i use superdomes in my eclipse and its fantastic with them, got any pics of your webley :up:
     
  8. oliver13

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    As above, Superdomes are a good place to start & at the limited ranges you you shoot at I doubt anything else will be notably better, but if you start to shoot at longer ranges, 30 - 40M then you will start to see a difference. As a guide, if you can keep them in a 10 - 15mm circle at 15M the gun isn't doing too bad.

    Weboil is just a normal oil & as such can be used everywhere on the gun, but don't put any down the transfer port as it will Diesel like a good'un, & don't lube the barrel bore unless you are storing the gun away for sometime.
    I find most oil droppers way too generous so I generally put a few drops on something & transfer it to the gun using a matchstick. You'll have to take the stock off to do the job properly but you only need to do it every few months.

    There's plenty of other lubes out there that can be recommended, but for most of the 20th century British manufacturers were basically using 3in1 oil on everything without any problems so I wouldn't worry too much.

    If you're interested, Abbey SM50 for the piston seal & compression tube, Molybdenum Disulphide grease for the spring & other heavily loaded bearings, & your Weboil will be fine for everything else.
     
  9. Eclipsetuned

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    Many thanks for your assistance people. I have gone for the Superdomes. I am thankful for the advice on the Eley Wasps. Certainly in the early and mid 90's I understood these to be a good pellet.

    Can I ask if there is any oil or lube that I should put down the transfer port or areas in the spring slide of the cylinder
     
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    falcon accurracy plus are a good pellet and by 22 weight are light-ish and it's not advisable to put any sort of lubricant anywhere near thebarrel as it will more than likely cause dieseling
     
  11. Eclipsetuned

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    thanks gents, on a final note. I got my gun for a birthday when I was younger (in 1994) and the gun has a 4 x 40 which says 'Kassnar' on it. Were they a good scope back then?
     
  12. Meteor62

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    These modern wasps are not the old eley wasps that we loved years ago. Eley stopped producing pellets some years ago and the name 'Wasp' was bought by I think Bisley . Their tins are more or less the same but lack the Eley monicker. These new wasps are notoriously crap. I am currently doing a test on 5.6mm pellets and you can read my thread here
    http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=178917
    I am having good success with john knibbs 5.6mm marksman pellets, not to be confused with the standard 5.5mm jobs. I intend trying defiant vintages maybe club shot would donate me a tin like knibbs have done for the test?
     
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    This is correct, OP. The original Eley Wasp was a very good pellet, practically a standard pellet when it came to testing and reviewing air rifles. It's modern counterpart seems to be the RWS Superdome, which is a good place to start, as most barrels seem to fare pretty well with them.

    The modern Wasp is not an Eley; the tin just says "Wasp" on it. The consensus of opinion of the newer ones is that they are very poor in comparison.

    Original tin of .22 Eley Wasps:

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    Newer, Bisley-made Wasp tin:

    [​IMG]

    Original Wasps have a certain smell that us old b*****s will remember from our youth - the newer ones don't have it.
     
  14. Meteor62

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    I used to love that smell of eleys so much if they bottled it up I would use it for after shave
     
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    You could bottle the smell of RWS Superdomes, it makes a very good all round basic aftershave, there may be better pellet smells out there but that is a good place to start.
     
  16. Eclipsetuned

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    looks like my wasps were a bad choice then!!! what are peoples thoughts on my kassnar scope
     
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    Kassnar scopes were quite a good scope and quite popular during the late 70s & 80s and I suppose along with Tasco and NikkoSterling were the three main brands that most airgunners used.The only drawback would almost certainly be that the scope is parallax corrected to 100yds for firearms which isn't really suitable for airguns especially at the sort of range you'l be using it at,it needs re-parallaxing to about 25-30yds
     
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  18. Eclipsetuned

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    thanks for all your help people. Ill take delivery of the superdomes and tell you how i get on!
     

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