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Question Pcp with recoil?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by tomsteebs, Jan 19, 2014.

  1. tomsteebs

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    Hi,
    I've always liked springer for the recoil feedback you get. I've also shot a rimfire and that had a nice kick to it, same as fac pcp's.

    So my question is, can or has anyone made pcps at sub 12ftlb have recoil? As I would quite like recoil in a pcp.
    I know some of you will be thinking why, but it's down to personal taste.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  2. Meteor62

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    Confused.com just carry on shooting spring guns?
     
  3. spike589715

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    Or gas ram ?
     
  4. tomsteebs

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    I knew someone would say that. I prefer pcp tbh. Multishot, silent, bolt action :) lighter/more balanced.
    Obviously there are exceptions to this.

    I find them more hunting orientated.

    Tom
     
  5. essex sniper

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    If you prefer pcp why would you want to ruin It with recoil
     
  6. Tripleteer

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    You could block the barrel up!!!!!!LoL.
     
  7. XTX

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    An EV2 in a light stock will give you recoil lol
     
  8. tomsteebs

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    Flipping heck I said it were personal preference :p

    Recoil wouldn't ruin a pcp, I've shot an fac s200 and that had .22lr type recoil and we were getting 10mm groups at 50m, it was easier to shoot groups with, probably because it was fac.

    I'm not after 50cal recoil. I dont think recoil is a massive disadvantage. I kinda like the feedback it gives you, but loud, heavy, usually front heavy springers are more of a disadvantage when hunting.

    I personally think airstrippers are a good way to waste money :D
     
  9. tomsteebs

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    C'mon Darrin, you must know a logical way. What about a heavy hammer spring and piston, but a different transfer port size?
     
  10. Meteor62

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    Why not go the whole hog and rig it so that when you fire a shot you get a little electric shock on your willy if that's what turns you on lol :D
     
  11. Wild Bill

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    Just pretend. When you pull the trigger, pull the gun back into your shoulder and do a pretend recoil movement, with the rifle kicking back and up. You won't hit the target but it looks good. You could always make "boom" noise at the same time. :):)

    Seriously, the point of a PCP is the lack of recoil. I say go back to springers.
     
  12. r10hunter

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    NO!!! Save all that effort fix one of these to your stock and tie the firing cord to your trigger.
    http://www.shotgun-store.co.uk/alarm-mine-blank-firing-1026-p.asp
    :):):):):)
    Cheers Andy
     
  13. dave goodall

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    Alot of fac pcp do have a sort of recoil so sub 12 will have too i tried this other day with my cricket 11.5 ftlb with a slow motion digi cam and u do get muzzle flip so kind of recoil not noticible with naked eye at sub 12 but then in a mates 50 ftlb .25 cricket you notice it for sure not that it affects accuracy tho in short get fac air if u want pcp with a recoil . If u can get hold of a digi cam with up to 240 fps or higher try filming your muzzle flip once you no its there you may take more notice of it there eaily picked up on bay ive bought couple last week or 2

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    Or you could really shorten the barrel then increase air flow higher reg pressure ect ect lot more hammer spring this will give u a type of recoil diffrent to a springer tho more muzzle flip at sub 12 but shot count will drop alot
     
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    Shout bang evertime you pull the trigger.
     
  15. r10hunter

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    That's interesting it's strange the way people perceive recoil differently. I don't think even a .22 hornet recoils in a noticeable way ( probably too many heavy shotgun loads )
    I have a camera that does high speed I will have to have a play.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Some PCP's have recoil, one one of my Air Wolfe's does, nothing like a springer though ;)
     
  17. tomsteebs

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    I'll give you a shout when I need help matching your set up ;)
    May aswell make the fill probe a Willy shape whilst I'm at it, and

    But seriously, I would actually like a pcp with some kick.
     
  18. tomsteebs

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    I knew people would take the Mick and say buy a springer, but they have alot of downsides other than recoil, but as I've said, it's not really that much of a disadvantage in pcps imo, springers recoil differently. Not after a pcp springer I'm after a pcp with kick. Got a 1000fps camera :)
     
  19. Chinnymonster81

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    They all have recoil as every action has an equal and opposite reaction (basic phsyics). The fact is that most pcps damp it so well that it is barely even noticeable. The recoil from a springer is much more noticeable because the the spring and piston masses far more than the little hammer spring and hammer in a pcp. After all the pcp doesn't need to create any energy as the air is already under pressure, it just needs to release it. The springer has to create the energy needed by compressing the air every time, hence the weird forward/backward recoil that springers have.
    A pcp and a springer firing the same pellet and velocity would have identical recoil energy until you take into account the mass of the moving parts. Of course the more air you push through a pcp the more the recoil will increase hence a more perceptible recoil in fac pcp's.
     
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    As u say andy recoil can be percieved in many ways dont think u will ever get a pcp to recoil like a springer ive used some monster rapids with rocket valves ect springs what resemble old cortina suspension springs but still only get muzzle flip not actual springer recoils only way ican think of getting a sub 12 to recoil by muzzle flip is to shorten barrel alot and higher air pressure but its going to be very loud as i found with the .20 mfr i sold the robin hence the nutshot shroud added but the harmonics of the shroud balanced the muzzle flip on that one atvb dave g
     

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