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Bad news Pay for a shoot?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by norris, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. norris

    norris Engaging Member

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    Last weeks edition of the Farmers Weekly contains an advert informing farmers they could earn £500 per year allowing responsible people to shoot on there land.


    Last line of the advert -Resonsible shooters who respect the land.
    FW (2009, page 25)

    Bulls*** people with more cash than sense...

    Personally I feel it is wrong to be charged for rough shoooting,and is certainly bad for the sport.The hobby is expensive enough as it is,without paying for shooting! (gun, fashion camo, scope,pelllets and petrol getting to the shoot)
  2. dazz

    dazz Engaging Member

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    tisbury wilts
    Bl**dy farmers they should pay us. Thats not really fair to farmers everyone I know is glad of me and all people saving them £100 a year from clearing squrriels and rats from pheasant feeders, rooks off the silage and pigeons and rabbits off the crops. Hang on we should be charging them.
  3. a1gunner

    a1gunner Pro Poster

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    It should be free either way.:rolleyes:
  4. verminator2009

    verminator2009 Member

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    Oh No, As if it wasn't almost impossible enough already to get a rough shoot! Let's be honest here...how many times do you see shotgun shoots advertised at £530 per gun? It all boils down to money. I Have asked 18 of the farmers surrounding my area for permission to shoot Vermin with a Legal Air Rifle, They just say We just manage the farm, WE are not the Landowners! I bet if I offered Hard Cash-it may be a different story. In short It needs to be a simple case of You Scratch My Back-I Scratch Yours. The Farmer let's us shoot the Rats/Rabbits etc (Vermin) on his land; and We do it gladly as Free Pest Control. There is now a population explosion in the Rat world, Surely Farmers need to realise we NEED eachother and charging Air gunners/Hunter's will surely only decrease an already dwindling sport? So stick by your guns, No fees!
  5. topcat

    topcat Posting Addict

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    Money grabbing land owners .
  6. noluv6

    noluv6 Engaging Member

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    we save em way more.it getting to a stage that people cant even get a shoot and if this goes a head people like my self wont be able to shoot.the sport is going down big time.people dont want to help others or nothing.i av thought about paying as our shoot is so small and i think i may have to but i simply cant afford to which is why im lackin a proper shoot.me and 3 brothers shoot and all av tried getting permission with no joy.weve done every farmer with in 30 mile radious.bought maps with farms layed out and all sorts.add up what it cost us in petrol and ammo.its plain wrong but money is every thing ain it
  7. Grunter

    Grunter Member

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    South Wales
    Im sure once the farmers realise that by accepting payment for people to shoot on their land they are in fact providing a service and therefore should be carrying out a full risk assessment and have their own insurance specifically for the activity that has been paid for, also they will be liable for half any incident that occurs on their property. It would be down to them to mark boundaries, provide maps etc.. otherwise they would be deemed negligent should an incident occur. Add to that it may well come under change of use of land and require planning before they could do this officially and im not so sure it would appeal quite so much to the farmer! Once you accept payment for something the rules change, and in this day and age that generally means paperwork..lots of paperwork.

    Just my thoughts on it, Dont think its going to be the dramatic end to the sport people think it is. There is a reason there are only a few farms that will let you ride scramblers on their land for a reason, its not noise, and people been offering to pay for many years.. so dont panic just yet.
  8. sumo

    sumo Posting Addict

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    I would never charge for vermin control personally because I have 2 very good mates,1 fullbore and 1 air rifle who are my eyes in the wee small hours,and also a very good company which covers me for rats etc for 250 sobs a year.
    But remember this,if you had a wee pond in your garden with heaps of fish,would you not charge for people to fish there,as they were benefitting in catching their supper,course you would!.
    Fed up with all this "boo hoo ing" about those "nasty land owners "charging for pest control,think its called the real world!.
    If you want free shooting then go buy your own land,just like the farmers had to do!:mad:.
    To put it into context,the most I have heard locally of farmers charging for rough shooting is 50 quid a year!.
    The farmer has to buy the land in excess of 6.5k an acre,then charges a measlie £1.04 a week for the privalidge of shooting over it,what the hell are the complaints about??
    To buy right now a 250 acre unit costs 1.62 million quid average, 2 million plus, if you include buildings etc!, does a quid or so a week really mean such hardships.I think not!.
    Grow up!!.
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2009
  9. andyhawkx3

    andyhawkx3 Major Poster

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    Black Country, West Midlands
    Ive left it till, everyone's had there say, my permitted land, charges £500 month, for game shooters, and pest control using shotgun's are also charged, if air-gunner want to shoot, other than myself ...they are also charged...I am not charged only because I am doing research, that could, and I believe will help farmers/pest controllers, but this research is at my-own expense ....we are living in difficult times, you may think land owners are rich, this is far from the true of many land owners...if I had a diesel car, I wouldn't like there monthly bill:( ...Have you asked your land owner, about ...just one of there bills, you will be very surprised at there out goings, and there crap payments, for there crops/livestock. !!!! ..and if everything goes tits up, regards the weather ...there are no hand outs, ....has I have said before many time's on this/the only forum I have ever been on....Talk to your land owner, ask questions, tell them you are interested in farming....You will be very surprised.
  10. amaser1

    amaser1 Donator

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    Brandon, Thetford
    Yes it is tough for farmers, and has been for quite a few years...

    Be polite, and don't be a afraid to negotiate a price with the landowner.

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