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Parker Hale Phoenix

Discussion in 'Gun Gallery' started by Stot, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. Stot

    Stot Posting Addict

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    Been looking at these for a while and seen one in the local gun shop, brand new at a good price, and had to have it.

    [​IMG]

    This is the full length .22 that comes factory screwcut for 1/2 UNF silencers. It comes with 2 bottles and 2 magazines. The magazines are a bit of a pain as they are BSA design, but with a little fettling they are running smooth. This is a MK1 which have a reputation, but thats mainly the magazines fault and i think with one of them new Pnumaticbalistics 8 shot mags this would disapear as they index the same as the Theoben mags.

    When I got it it was running a touch high but ive taken it down and got a nice fresh bottle shot string out of it.

    [​IMG]

    70 shots above 10.5Ft.Lbf is great for a stalking rifle, and take 2 bottles with you should be plenty for a hunting trip.

    After 90 shots the bottles are at 70 bar and charge really easilly with the FX 4 Stage pump I got today too, so take that along and you can shoot all day. :D

    Cheers
    Stot
     
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  2. LUCAN07

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    Very nice :up:
     
  3. Clubshot

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    Think you will find that the Mark 1 will Only work with BSA Style Magazines

    Reason - current New Mark Two's have a totally New Design magazine

    As well accepted as problems with Mark 1's & magazines

    I have a Mark Two in .177 ;)

    Now come out of Pax Gun's without AT - Fitted ;)

    BOB/R
     
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    it says on the righting on the bottom its highest was 12.05 but the graph line does not touch the 12 mark why?
     
  5. Stot

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    Hi Bob,

    Yeah I called PAX re this one when I got it to aks if the MK2 mag would work. No go. :(

    But these will.

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    Only 8 shots per side, id only want the single one anyway, but from the description it looks like it indexes the same as the Theobens, i.e. a the pellet/probe in the hole stops it indexing and as the probe slides out on the cocking stroke the mag turns its self to the next pellet.

    Cheers
    Stot.
     
  6. Stot

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    Not sure, I did notice that too. I need to check into that I think its the Google graph not doing the data right.

    It did touch 12.05 for one shot so I nudged it down again and get an average of 11.50 now.

    Cheers
    Stot
     
  7. neilrobinson

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    it sounds like google not doing it right. just thought id let ya no.
     
  8. Stot

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    Well I said these MK1s had a reputation, And true to form this one had an 'issue'. It would shoot fine in a session, but left overnight lost all the air. To be fair, it is a 10 year old gun thats never been used, the seals will have dried in position yonks ago.

    Nevermind, I stripped it down to re-seal it and while I was in there I decided the valve could be made better.

    I machined a new valve body from brass to take slightly thicker o-rings, Kept the transfer port hole as small as possible to fit the transfer port (theres a lot of space around it on the original valve ) and made a new valve pin and seal out of drill rod and delrin. Lapped it in a touch and put it all back together.

    [​IMG]

    Before the strip it was running 11.5. I rebuilt it and it was running 14!! :eek: I expected a bit of an improvement but 20%! :up:

    Tried to turn it down to legal, and with the power adjuster all the way out I was still at 12.3 :rolleyes: So out came the hammer spring guide and 5mm off the spring seat on the lathe and the lowest power setting is now 9.5 so I've Turned it back up to 11.5.

    Hopefully it will mean more shots per bottle.
    More efficient = less hammer pre-load = valve open less = less air used. We'll see. ;)

    Oh and, the gun now holds pressure which was the point of stripping it anyway... :D:D:D

    Cheers
    Stot
     
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  9. Stot

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    Also yesterday I added a threaded delrin top to the bottle tommy bar so that there is a place to keep the thread protector ring when not in use. :up:

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    Saves me losing it eh.

    Cheers
    Stot
     
  10. neilrobinson

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    looks like you been busy. how long did it take to make the new one on the lathe?
     
  11. Stot

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    Probably 2 hours all together. Its not that complex really, a simple poppet valve but the radius on the stem makes the world of difference to air flow. :up:

    Cheers
    Stot
     
  12. Stot

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    I've been playing with this gun for a while and Ive bought a couple more bottles for it so I have 4 now which is great means I only need to pump now and then :up: It has had its 'issues' but nothing some loctite cant fix. :p

    One thing I have noticed is that power fluctuates depending on which bottle I use! Must be differences in the bottle valve so ill see if I can do something about that. :cool:

    One other perculicarity is that with the Phoenix, the underlever jumps a bit when you shoot. Ive found that holding it tight, results in more power than letting it lose by ~1/2ft.lbf.

    Anyway just thought I'd write that down. :D

    Cheers
    Stot
     
  13. Eccy118

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    Nice piece of kit you have there.:)

    There's a guy at my gun club who has one and he loves it,he says it's very accurate.

    His doesn't have a silencer on but it makes a fantastic sound without it.
     
  14. 1961nuffield

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    Interesting write up

    Thanks

    John
     
  15. Stot

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    Update on the jumping underlever. Theres actuallly a stop screw in the frame, ive now adjusted it so that as the sear engages the lever cannot pull back any more, which means pulling the lever tight doesnt preload the spring any further as it was before, and I can now trust the power setting. :up:

    I do love this gun. Its no the easiest gun to get along with initially but its one where if you stick with it, and have the equiptment to deal with it, its character shines through. Waiting for a Simmons Aetec to go on top of it in place of the MTC Viper I have on it at the moment as its just too heavy with the MTC->NV Addon all set up. The Simmons should save me 300+ grams, as long as the glass turns up to be good.

    I could imagine if I didnt have the wherewithall or lathe to be able to work on it myself it would have gone back to the shop for good, but remember this is a MK1 and there is NOT a problem with the new MK2.

    Cheers
    Stot
     
  16. Clubshot

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    Lot's Changes in Mark Two's

    You have a Very Limted Edition Gun there

    With the Very Limited Number of Mark Ones - working ;)

    BOB/R
     
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    Very tasty looking rifle, another on the wanted list...mike...:up::)
     

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