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Pard Sa25 Thermal Riflescope Photos, Independent Reviews Coming Soon...

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by Russ Douglas, Jan 8, 2020.

  1. Russ Douglas

    Russ Douglas YouTube: RussDouglas222

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    @bighunter I would love to (and trust me so would Bruce!) especially the SA45LRF version...

    I'll see what I can do to get hold of one for review -wish me luck, and watch this space.
    Cheers. Russ
     
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    yha thats what im looking at getting the LRF version :thumb:
     
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    I think Bruce is already dreaming of that one too TBH, having seen for himself the performance of the SA25. ;):cool:
    In our video you see the moment he realises that (from PNV) the top of the range PARD SA45 with LRF is 'only' £2,650... his eyes pop a bit. :D
    Cheers. Russ
     
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    That looks a wonderful bit of kit Russ, the picture quality looks amazing.. Thanks for sharing.. and emptying my wallet in the future..
     
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    My pleasure @PBaz Barrett :D

    Very happy to bring you the latest kit, especially when the quality is this good, and the price (relatively, for Thermal) is this competitive. :thumb:

    Bruce has got the SA25 right now for more testing and to write a supplement to the manual! He's already discovered that when zooming (x2 & x4) the zoomed image stays centred upon the zeroed reticle (within certain limits, naturally).
    This also suggests PARD are working on improvements to the firmware across their range; fingers crossed!

    Cheers. Russ
     
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    Almost sounds like they listen to comments from users :)
     
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    Hopefully so @Jonkem. :D

    Cheers. Russ
     
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    i think im going to wait a month or so for pard to iron out any bugs / wait for firmware update.
     
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    I thought that, until I went Ratting with a thermal spotter on a pest control job. The Rats don’t get used to thermal because they can’t see it, unlike any kind of digital unit where you need to use a ir light source.
    But it’s hard justifying £4K on a decent thermal for shooting rats.
     
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    @Kevgun Well although we're testing the 25mm version, there's also a 19mm model (SA19) that's priced at £1,800 (from PNV). Great to see top-quality Thermal imagers becoming more affordable at long last.
    Though I'd have to try it to be sure its maximum (digital-boosted) mag of x6 was up to the job.
    Cheers. Russ
     
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    Yes Russ, should be good enough. i have a Saim SCL35 on long term demo, i will see if Cliff can arrange to send out a Demo unit to you and and Bruce for testing. The Saim SCL 35 is £2400 i think or there about's
    it's very good for the Money and also very small comparable to the Pard in size. i would be quite happy shooting a Fox at 150 yards with it.
     
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    Wow thanks @Kevgun (I'm checking with Bruce right now), I googled it and found it on Blackwood-Outdoors: https://www.blackwoodoutdoors.co.uk/saim-scl35-thermal-rifle-scope

    It's the same sensor as the SA25 and all the other thermal units we've compared it to so far, but no mention of digital zoom over the native 2x mag, can you tell me more specs: what's the max mag & does it have onboard recording?

    Cheers. Russ
     
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    the SCL35 is gimmick free, although there is wifi streaming i believe. the base mag is 2.5 and then goes digital 3 times i think, sounds a bit sketchy i know but, i just switch on and use. Cliff Ray @ Optical solutions Sells them as well. i think i'm on the stand with him at the upcoming shooting show. i'll have a natter with him,if it's something you'd be interested in.
     
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    Kev that all sounds great, Bruce describes the SA25 as gimmick-free too: "...There is no wifi, no on-board recording, no USB port for charging the battery in the unit, no HDMI connector to connect an external screen, and I think, no audio." ...so less to go wrong.

    I'm hoping (health issues -permitting) to be at the BSS too, you'll hopefully not miss me. :thumb:

    Cheers. Russ
     
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    Ill Look out for you, i can always spot a face in a crowd
     
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    Thanks Kev, Bruce just sent me these too. I see that the screen res is even higher than the SA45. Does the SCL35 have a video-out socket, for recording, or attaching a HUD?

    Ah you'll not miss me at the BSS, am 6'4" with a big grin and bright green crutches. :D

    Cheers. Russ
     
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    Quickie for ya, Bruce has sent me some footage recorded on the Yukon MPR via his DIY comms cable, via output from the SA25's 'aviation' socket.
    It's certainly not HD as this is only a Thermal sensor after-all. It's not even the 1024x768 that the SA25's display works at, due solely to the limitations of the Yukon MPR, but I'll try to get that online tomorrow for ye to view. :thumb:

    Cheers. Russ
     
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    Morning all, prior to editing and uploading a video today with NV guru Bruce's first video recorded from the SA25, I wanted to share some other findings...

    The PARD SA25 Thermal scope display options also have an aviation theme tie-in (in addition to the video out socket being an 'aviation' type).

    The menu includes option to display compass bearing, which when enabled shows a fairly discreet bearing (N-*-E-*-S-*-W-*-) at the top, so you can effectively determine N, NE, E, SE, S, SW, W, NW. This could perhaps be of use while hunting, e.g. you could be watching a semi-hidden burrow entrance that's NE of you, then you scan around -before quickly returning to "NE".

    Potentially more useful to shooters it also includes the option to display "Pitch & Roll". Pitch is basically a display of Inclination and declination (i.e. aiming up or down), the Pitch displays on the left as a vertical moving scale, though it doesn't have + or - beside the numbers, which might be useful on playback in a dark view, once (if and when) we get a lightweight better quality recording option sussed-out.
    The roll is a measure of cant, i.e. is the rifle leaning to the left or right. This could be more useful to shooters, though it looks made to display for rolling around (0deg to +/- 90deg), whereas a shooter might prefer it to more precisely display a smaller range of angles, at higher resolution -providing the internal hardware sensor is accurate-/sensitive- enough, of course.

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    Please excuse the untidy resolution of this quick screen-grab, the SA25 may display at 1024x768 (which trust me, is excellent to the eye), but the output signal via the aviation connector is slightly lower-res than that; and after-all non-HD HUDs are often 800x600 max. Plus the Yukon MPR reduces it further and (I think, from my first impressions) distorts it slightly too, squishing the image slightly horizontally. But I wanted to show you the basic idea.
    Cheers. Russ (and Bruce)
     
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    hello, very much agree paul,
     

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