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Pard 008p Lrf Vs Atn 4k With Abl

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by shw, Sep 10, 2021.

  1. shw

    shw Engaging Member

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    Which would you choose and why :)
     
  2. Herbie87

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    I opted for the Pard based on a few differences that favoured my needs -
    • Price
    • Size
    • Weight
    • Takes 18650 batteries
    • Ease of use
    • Onboard IR
     
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    I'd agree with everything Herbie 87 says and add:
    Image quality
    Reliability
    Customer service

    Cheers

    Bruce
     
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    Ok cheers Bruce… I’m looking for the best night vision/ or possibly thermal with lrf .. the perfect option I think doesn’t exist .. for me that would be a thermion or digex with lrf … a tubed unit I think is the way forward
     
  5. Autodidact

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    Had the choice, and made it (for the reasons listed above) ...

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    And have no regrets either ;)

    HTH :thumb:
     
  6. mealiejimmie

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    Whatever you do, DON'T buy a Digex - even if it had an LRF I would n't touch it with a bargepole
    If you have the money, then a Pulsar Trail 2 XQ LRF is what you want.

    Cheers

    Bruce
     
  7. scarecrow243

    scarecrow243 scarecrow243

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    i bought the atn x 3x14 4k pro as more like a normal height scope plus 18hr battery life and the abl 1500 works great night and day time its very clear
     
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    So I went Pard 008 LRF got sick of messing with shims so bought the Eaglevision mount and couldn’t fault the set up done what it says on the tin small clear built in IR is brilliant BUT had an itch for the ATN 4K and ABL so snapped up A bargain … it’s fitted but yet to try it!

    You can read all the reviews and listen to all the opinions but making your own decision after trying both can’t be beaten! I say that but went Pard after a lot of reading and watching videos

    First impressions are I don’t think I’ll like the size and weight of the ATN made worse when you really need to add a better IR but I love the principle of the ABL doing the hard work

    for me on my permission both Pard and ATN have there place some nights I don’t need to walk anywhere and use the car as a rest so the ATN will be fine other nights I’ve got quite a walk up and down fields where the Pard wins for size and weight but I’ll see how I get on over the next couple of weeks

    One thing is for sure one of them will
    be for sale very soon before the boss notices the money has gone cause I certainly can’t afford to keep both
     
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    Ok thanks for that advice.. are you the guy in Russ’s videos ..asking for a friend! :D
     
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    For my sins - yes :)

    Cheers

    Bruce
     
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    Do either of these have range control? (Range Finder)

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    The best option for me is a thermal spotter with LRF coupled with the Pard 008.
    That way i can scan and range without taking the rifle off my shoulder when on the move.
    Likewise, sitting in a van scanning for quarry i’m not having to pick the rifle up every time.
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    yes thats my set up, i picked the pard008lrf against the ATN purely because of the weight difference!
     
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    I already use a thermal spotter ( axion key) with my lrf pard … just wondering if there are any better options scope wise
     
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    You have it covered then, the only thing is whether you want the versatility of LRF on the spotter.
    Personally can’t see the point in thermal scopes when digital gives superb clarity in normal shooting ranges.
     
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    Regarding peoples opinions and the pard being the preferred night vision scope is the ABL not an advantage that will put more game in the bag
     
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    Not necessarily.
    If you have entered all your bullet data (weight, BC, MV) and the height of the scope above the bore, when you press the button on the ABL, it will measure the range to the target, pass that data to the scope via the bluetooth connection and the scope will then calculate the firing solution and move the reticle to the correct aiming point.
    When it works, it's great.
    I bought a used X Sight 4k 3-14 and a used ABL and they worked perfectly together such that I could regularly shoot bunnies at 120 yards with 22 subsonics.
    The problem was that at 120 yards I needed full magnification and the image quality at that range was rubbish.
    I traded the 3-14 for a new 5-20 and guess what - the 5-20 kept freezing (even without the ABL)
    Even when it didn't freeze, it never worked with the ABL.
    The lack of reliability of ATN products is one of the major reasons why the PARD is so much more popular than the ATN
    The other main issue is that the X Sight plus ABL is a big heavy awkward lump of a scope compared to the small neat, light weight PARD
    Finally, the IR supplied with the X Sight is truly useless, so an additional £100+ is needed for an decent IR. The on board IR on the PARD is good enough for any targets up to at least 150 yards.
    So yes, the ATN/ABL combo can let you shoot more accurately (with a decent IR), but a PARD 008 LRF also tells you the range and if you know the trajectory of your pellets/bullets then it can be just as accurate.

    Cheers

    Bruce
     
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