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Pard 007 12mm/16mm

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by weebster, May 14, 2020.

  1. weebster

    weebster Posting Addict

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    Something that I recall with lens size when all the home builds were going was the difference in image between 12mm and 16mm,the former would give a black circle image on the screen where as the latter would show the crosshairs with no surrounding circle....is it the same for the 12mm/16mm 007's?
     
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    12mm pard , the mag is almost the same as normal cross hairs . 12mm gives a slight more field of view. 16 mm will increase your cross hair size , plus you , dont get the view as you do with the 12mm
     
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    So I take it that like the diy builds/screen on top of the scope ...with a 12mm lens you get an image on the screen where the corners of the screen have that black cresent moon in each corner and 16mm fills the whole screen but you lose a bit of fov...yes?
    Probably not explaining this well,but on the early diy screen on top of scope builds if you used say a 10mm lens then on the screen there would be an image consisting of a complete circle/cross hairs and the surrounding area was black...as you increase the lens size the circle/cross hairs got larger and the black surrounding area gets smaller etc.
     
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    I’m not sure how bad it is with ,the 16mm pard. I’m sure someone will come along shortly. To be more help.
     
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    The 16 has a magnification built in too so if your on say 10mag on your scope you will see it at x17 mag I think and it has a narrow FOV
    The 12mm has no extra mag built in so its the same as your scope view, its also has a wider FOV and focusses closer for say airgun ratting

    Thats my understanding of them and waiting for a 12mm oled to land

    Chris
     
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    12mm pard is 1.5 x bottom end mag use on a
    3 x mag = x 4.5 combined
    6 x mag = x 9 combined and so on has a slightly larger field of view than the 16mm
    The Pard 12mm unit is adjustable in stages base is x1.5 , x2.0 , 2.5 , x3.0 , x3.5 then X this by your scope setting
    That’s why ideally lower start base mag scopes work better in most cases there are other factors lens coatings etc that have an overall effect in performance :facepalm:
     
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    I was told no extra mag on the 12mm, thats a shame if so as Ill need a x1 or x2 scope for ratting. If your right Ill go for a HUD setup instead I think and keep the xt for rabbiting

    Chris
     
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    Bit Confused why you would require a 1x or 2x base mag scope for ratting ?

    lowest setting on my 12mm lens version is x1.5 won’t go any lower
    Unless someone could advise
    Quite often us this in me
    NF Benchrest minimum mag on that is x8 take Reynard well over 200yds with .243

    One of the main factors required is the ability to focus close up ie parallax adjustment

    was using mine on a 6 x fixed last night occasionally taking rats just feet away not yards
    Then have the ability shoot them at 20-30 yds away
    Was using a Dedal Stalker last night
    Both these rats was roughly 10feet away from me drinking out a water trough until they met Hade in .22 flavour fac:)
    FDD579C2-9B11-4AF7-896D-E0DC276BC4DE.jpeg 4BFAA373-980B-442B-9C21-1EEB33A589D1.jpeg
     
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    Great pics, but if that was running around Id never be able to follow it :D

    Ive been useing 3mag for a while and I dont want anymore as at close range it’s hard to find and track them, I’m shooting from say 2 yards out to 20yds, most are 5yds max as Im in stables and styes and some on joists

    I was lead to believe there was no extra mag digitally added with the 12mm, I have tried a HUD but it was homebrew with wires everywhere:)

    Ill have to look into it a bit more then..

    Chris
     
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    You require a scope with as large field of view as possible and with the ability to parallax right down close
    The Pard 12mm base mag is negligible really just require correct scope match
     
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    I didn't think the 12mm had any magnification. The 16mm has a built in ocular magnification of 1.33x

    So as said, it gives a complete screen view, but the Ret is magnified and the view through the scope is magnified instantly by 1.33x
     
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    Thats what I need to know,so 12mm gives a circular view on the screen just like looking through the scope?....I was told the 12mm has no magnification benefit and 16mm like you say has but I thought it was 1.7x
     
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    To answer your question, that's exactly what I get with my 12mm Pard 007.
    The corners of the screen have that black crescent effect but to be honest I don't notice it when using.
     
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    Sorry, you are right.
    The 16mm is about 1.7x
    The 12mm is very little if any mag on the reticule.

    I have been reading about it on NVUK, if you have a fine Ret like on a Sightron Stac, people are choosing the 16mm at longer ranges, but 12mm if using a standard mildot.

    Also, if you are shooting rats close range the 12mm would be favoured.
     
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    Thanks Gazz,that's what I thought it would be after remembering the same image outcome on the diy screen builds when using a 12mm lens.
     
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    Here’s some screenshots from different scope setups with various external ir’s fitted showing as viewed through pard

    MTC Taipan
    Optisan Eve
    Dedal Stalker

    Solaris Srx
    NM 800
    T20 black sun

    6F422B92-A714-4922-8BB7-2DA6C11AD96E.jpeg B5A7A82E-1566-46E1-A4B0-86E22B97FF6B.jpeg EFB5D55C-2AEC-4245-8D53-6A1F61C1481B.jpeg 92F3384B-869E-46D7-8396-0A5D8EBF31FA.jpeg
     
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    Nice image on the pics...is it 12mm or 16mm lens?....I'm guessing its 12mm?....no need to answer,I've just re-read your post above (no 8) :facepalm:
     
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    This is what I was told about the units own magnifications, 16mm x 1.7. 12mm x 0 added to your scopes mag, where did you get this info as I need to chose which nv I go for

    Chris
     
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    I was doing multiple searches on nightvisionforum
    I have a pard 007 with 16mm lens here too
     
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    Just been advised mine may need software update
    As when unit is activated clearly shows x1.5 in lower left corner then allows increase mad to be set if required then back to 1.5 there is no lower base mag before that :thumb:
     

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