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Only popped in for some pellets...

Discussion in 'Gun Gallery' started by Gary H, Jun 17, 2014.

  1. Gary H

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    Hello all

    So, as I said, I popped into my local RFD on Saturday to pick up some pellets for a bit of a shoot in the afternoon. Of course, my eye got drawn to the air rifle racks so I had a look through, as you do, and found this lurking between a couple of tx200's

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    She's in .22 flavour, missing the iron sights and her woodwork's a bit tatty but lovely to shoot and even with my fists of ham I can actually hit things with her - more than once, too!:up:

    (Would it be rude to divulge what I paid for it...?)

    i think it's a relatively early one too - serial number 1140206, late 80's?? Please correct me if I'm wrong but it's the best estimate I could guess from info on t'interweb.

    Any info/advice is greatly welcomed as I know nothing about hw77's (other than they're right crackers!) or the ASI scope.
    All comments and opinions welcome

    cheers
    Gary
     
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    A very nice find,agree late 1988 ish but still a nice rifle, It would not take a lot to get your stock up to scratch so to speak.If its shooting fine the old adage is leave well alone. Would not be so rude as to ask the purchase price incase your other half views this forum, but would £170/200 be near the mark as it was from a RFD,dave
     
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    Can't help with info but looks a good :up:
     
  4. larryking28

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    Serial number would be about 88-89 so you were right :)
    I have just got a .177 from about the same time as yours.
    I removed the anti bear trap on mine though as I like to be able to de-cock the rifle and it also makes it more like the one I had back in about 1986.
    I have also been tuning mine a bit as it was a bit twangy as it was,much better and smoother now but a little down on power as a result but that should be easy enough to sort out.
     
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    That, sir, is a winner! That'll be a 25mm piston job, too.
     
  6. Gary H

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    Cheers guys, must admit I'm pretty chuffed with it


    Dave - yeah, I can sort the stock out. I do some wax repairing on furniture so the blemishes shouldn't be a problem. I may take the innards out and see if they're moly'd up okay though. You're spot on there - 200 beer tokens for the gun, scope, a rather nice fleecy slip and a tin of JSB Jumbo's. No probs with SWMBO - she tore me a new one Saturday! Then Sunday she tried it herself and put me to shame - my 3 shots 15mm ctc, she picks it up and puts one on the left edge of a 5mm centre dot!! :yield:


    Ta muchly Robin


    Thanks for the info Larry. Don't think I'll remove the bear trap though - I'm still getting used to the idea of putting fingers inside an open breech! I still 'clench' a bit when loading :eek: I may have a fettle with the wet n dry though - the piston on yours has come up a treat I can't tell if mine twangs though as all I have to compare it to is my SMK and that thing twangs and kicks like a mule with a smacked a*se!


    cheers Jack - 25mm piston - is that a good thing then?

    Anyone know about ASI scopes? It doesn't look too new and feels heavy and solid with some thick glass too

    thanks all
    Gary
     
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  7. Jackroadkill

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    Well, some will say that the earlier 25mm piston makes for a smoother rifle (based on a smaller, more efficient swept volume versus the effort of the spring) and some will say that there's no appreciable difference between the 25mm and the later 26mm piston as regards firing cycle.

    Personally I have a slight bias in favour of the 25mm but that's probably more to do with me than the rifles.
     
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    What type of underlever catch is fitted to your 77 ?
     
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    Hi JD

    Just had a quick Google (I'm in work at the mo) and it's this one with the slide button underneath -

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    Seems a bit odd,you rifle is about the same age or slightly older than mine and mine doesn't have that arrangement.
    Also the HW77 I had in about 1986 didn't have a bear trap or that arrangement so maybe yours has a newer replacement part?
    The one I have now and in the past were both carbines so I wonder if that is why yours has the different set up given it is full length?
     
  11. Gary H

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    How does your underlever catch work them Larry - is it a push button type or...?
    As for the anti beartrap, i don't know if mine has one or not as i haven't had the innerds out yet. i'd just rather leave it there if it has one ;) How would you tell if it has or not?
    On the point of taking it apart, what is the pre-load like on the 77? Do you need a spring compressor or can you release it by hand? I'd like to see how clean it is and maybe give it a polish & re-lube...
     
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    Yeah its just the push button type,no slide catch on the bottom.
    You push the button on the front under the barrel and it presses in a ball latch in the end of the underlever which drops down.
    Beartrap,basically if you cock the rifle the trigger is locked up so you cant pull it by mistake whilst your fingers are in the breech with the inevitable results!
    Yes you do still have the safety catch but I have found unless you pull the underlever right back till the safety pops out it doesn't always engage.
    The only problem is if you want to set the trigger up you can only do so by firing off a shot each time,I prefer to be able to get a feel for the trigger by using it to decock the rifle,obviously whilst holding the underlever.
    You can check the trigger by firing the rifle once you have adjusted it as sometimes firing it compared to decocking it the trigger might feel a bit different if that makes sense.
    I undid my end block by hand.
    I put the barrel end against the wall with a cushion on it,then I put a cushion on my stomach and undid the end block,as you get to the last few threads push against the rifle to anticipate the push from the spring.
    Its not like a jack in the box and as long as you expect it it's not going to jump out and go through your head!
    I cut my spring down,polished the internals,fittied a Tinbum kit and I can screw the end block back on by hand very easily,there is next to no tension in it in it's uncocked state.
    Now it puts out a very consistent 11ft/lbs with a variation of less than 10fps.
     
  13. Gary H

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    Larry - just looking on Google and found on the Gunspares site a parts list. Mark 1 rifles had a ball detente catch, mark 2 has the sliding catch so the button catch must be the mark 3 version

    https://www.gunspares.co.uk

    Mark 1 & Mark 2.
     

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