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Old Eley Cartridges.

Discussion in 'Shotguns (SGC)' started by George X, Nov 5, 2020.

  1. George X

    George X Engaging Member

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    I was given these last night to dispose off, came from an elderly widow who lost her husband 25 years ago. He was unwell for a long time before he died so these are possibly 40 years+ old.
    I can remember the pre plastic ones myself but couldn't date when the change over happened. IMG_20201105_100417_393.jpg IMG_20201105_101236_212.jpg Obviously the gun they had been fired with had a week firing pin, so it was worth a try putting them through old faithful and success. Couldn't get over the kick with them compared to the modern run of the mill stuff though.
     
  2. Vasbyt

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    Bet they went with a bit of a boom. In regards to age there is something in the back of my mind dating Eley Kynoch headstamp from the 60s to the early 80s. So your probably not far off the mark with 40 years old. The Green cartridge is Czech brand SBP, I use to find them to be a dirty cartridge.
     
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    I remember the SBP, used to buy off a RFD that did a range of stuff no one else had, I remember Swedish stuff in 3" that he did was good
    Also got a few Eley Anglia off him too, not legal any longer though.
    Express also was cheap at a time.
     
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    Not completely sure, but I think plastic cartridge cases came in about 1967. I remember a year or two after buying some for my wife's uncle's 16 bore gun that I borrowed and they weren't as easy to get in or out as paper cases.
     
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    I remember green Sellior-Bellot of Prague,and think the brand name was “Plastik”.Prior to that they made paper case Mark 11,with 32 grams.Eley produced some silver head cartridges in 1973 or 74,not sure why and they soon went back to brass colour.The oldest Eley’s I have are ICI stamped Eley Kynoch,rolled turnover,which were likely post war,or 1950’s. FD71C9FF-00F7-417E-A8B8-CF569B4EA3B6.jpeg EC38907D-C382-4683-81C5-E88DA84E2F16.jpeg B7426EF5-8A29-479D-B418-37638F516822.jpeg
     
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    Those plain cased Eley's are wartime loadings. I have a few of those with top cards by Churchill's a T.Stensby etc.

    If there's any interest I can stick some pictures up.
     
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    Dating back to the war and unshot ?
    How did you come by them?
     
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    Yeah, to be honest their not that uncommon, I've shot a few off in the past and they still kill well.

    Yeah wartime unshot, to the best I my knowledge they were loaded into the plain cases to save on money etc. I've got a few different calibres with the broad arrow denoting MoD.

    They often turn up in the Holt's catalogue, sometimes full original boxes too. Most of mine came along with other collections I brought up.
     
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    This got me thinking i'll dig out my old ammo box from the murky depths of my cupboard. These carts are what i had left over from the late 60's/early 70's. The're all plastic heavy(ish) loads from my youth. The Gevelot Supervix are quite a specialist load, haven't come across any wiid boar to try them out on!:facepalm:
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    Careful some heavier loads are illegal now
     
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    I remember them all from my early days of shotguning! Alphamax was a long brass version of hymax! All under £1.50 a box 50 years ago! The buckshot may be LG size,if over 5 pellets I believe they are legal to own.
     
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    Weren't lots of these crowsfoot stamped carts issued to the home guard, lots had large shot to take down the Germans if they invaded.

    Also used to train RAF gunners to lead the target by shooting shotguns before going airborne with machine guns.
     
  13. Farmboy

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    Spot on.

    They'd load a 16 bore solid ball in a 12 bore case to ensure it could be shot through any choke without damaging the gun.
     

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