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Old Air rifle advice

Discussion in 'Vintage collectable airguns' started by crosshare, Dec 15, 2013.

  1. crosshare

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    Hi all, newbie here, not had an air rifle since my youth, 25 years ago. Anyway, just got one, and its older than me!
    I got it cheap because it was covered in crap, it looks cheap too.
    Anyway, I cleaned it up and found some stamps on it, its a FALKE modell 60, made in Germany, it says Kal. 4,5m/m gez on the barrel.
    I assume this is euro speak for .177? Don't have any idea about the "gez"

    Any info on this gun would be appreciated, also is it worthless or antique?
    Is it likely to have any accuracy compared to newer guns.

    Oh, after a good clean, I would say it is in near perfect condition considering its age.
    Cheers for any advice
     
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    http://www.network54.com/Index/98508 You have a very good,reasonably rare,collectible air rifle there my friend. I am no expert on Falke, but what I can tell you is they are German made, high quality and very collectible.
    You need to have look on the network 54 airgun forum ,then search for the Falke page.
    Link at top of page......

    Pete.
     
  3. thevoid

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    No better way into airguns than restoring an old gun to former glory, you'll learn to appreciate how they work and after a short while will end up with a HW95 and get obsessed with tuning it :rolleyes:

    do some before and after pictures and post them up :)
     
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    Thanks for the link ( haven't stopped reading since I got it! )

    I will do some pics, I enjoy restoring things, it's a shame I had already cleaned it ! It looked awful, spray paint, oil etc.
    I've looked up metal blueing and fancy a crack at that, as for the stock, I am pretty confident with wood and think I'm gonna give it a red / black grain effect.
    But..! it is yet another project, who knows how much time I will afford it!
     
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    It's a shame it's not a mod 90- you'd have people throwing large amounts of cash at you for it :up:

    The Falke 90 is a thing of utter beauty ;)

    Yours will be a fine and solid gun as they all are :cool:

    If you decide to restore it, have a professional reblue- don't be tempted to have a go with the cold blue treatments as they're rubbish by comparison :(



    Cheers, John :)
     
  6. crosshare

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    Ok here she is mostly cleaned up. I have to steam the stock to get the rest of the oil out, a bit more polishing of metal, then I'm going to re-blue it, I have decided to do this myself, a hot re-blue will give it an anodised look, which while I know isn't original, I think will be nice. If not, I can always do a cold blueing afterwards to darken it.
    I had some pellets arrive today, which got me in trouble, I put a cardboard box ( with 4 layers ) on my desk against a wall.
    Well, it went through the box, through both sides of the aluminium white board and chip the wall plaster!! Much more power than I expected.
    The main spring is a little bent, which I assumed meant it would be very tired, but apparently not.

    The pellets are a very tight fit for some reason, the first shot didn't even fire, so I cleaned the inside of the barrel, and now it fires 3 times out of 5, if I push the pellet in the barrel about 2mm it is fine, so may just need a little honing. Any ideas?
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    Tut,tut... air rifles like that are NEVER available when I'm around! :hail2:
    I'm having enough difficulty finding another BSA Meteor to refurb, so something a bit more 'exotic' like yours is something I can only dream of.
    Nice one mate.
     
  9. crosshare

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    Well if like many other of my projects, I get bored or too busy, I will give you a shout, my daughter lives near you, so I am there often.
    I suppose if it is quite rare, I am undeserving of it, it is just a novelty to me, but I wont do anything to take it away from the original, I am even polishing around the stamps just to preserve them!
     
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    Wow, I'll hold you to that my friend...
    First dibs to bhodge, I'm happy with that!
    Seriously, if you do decide to part with it then I'd certainly like to have a chance of owning it!
     
  11. Patrick

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    Anybody think the HW95 is the only decent air rifle going but it isn't,there are other decent guns around
     
  12. crosshare

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    Look away if your squeamish!
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    Another 2 layers of dark red, then a layer of black to go on. Then sand it all off again!
    Don't worry the gun wont be pink!
     
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    That pic was a bit crappy!

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    Keep 'em coming. Looking tasty already. If you want pics. of my first, very encouraging, exercise at slow rust bluing send message.
     
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    Hi, and thanks. I'm not sure what you mean with slow rust blueing. I have hot blued the trigger guard and end cap already, not the best work, but not bad.
    The stock is coming along nice, after about 3 layers of red, I applied a coat of black ( that was scary ) but after a sand down its looking good. Haven't applied any oil or lacquer yet but it's starting to show the grain nicely.
    Cheers for looking. WP_000824.jpg WP_000825.jpg

    Ps If it has a serial number, where would I look for it??
    What is the leather? washer called that is the main seal and where could I buy one?
    Is it safe to assume that replacing the main spring etc wont depreciate the value?
    On the breech I think! ( the square section where the barrel exits ) there is stamped "M" any ideas?
    I have learned, the stock is Walnut, it will take an Ox No:2 spring and its an early 1950's model. Any other info about this rifle would be great!
     
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    Anyone know if the Vortek piston seals will be ok for this gun? The OD is the same
     
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    The "gez" stamped on the barrel is short for lauf gezogen which translates to "rifled".

    Good luck with it, any Falke is well worth rebuilding.

    Marc DV
     

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