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Oh God, Here We Go Again.

Discussion in 'Get it off your chest' started by mike-carter, Aug 13, 2019.

  1. mike-carter

    mike-carter Pro Poster

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    This is not a thread on politics just a thread in losing more freedom.
    Some "people" are looking at mobile phone use, i.e. Hands Free. Millions of people rely on a cell phone connected to the vehicles Bluetooth system.
    Now I don't condone holding/using a mobile phone whilst driving, indeed, last Friday with my grandchildren in the car I wholly told off a woman in a red Fiesta using the phone whilst driving when we pulled up at lights. She asked me to mind my own business, I politely (oh yeah) told her it was my business as she's a danger to my grandchildren, me and other road users. I twisted my dash cam to film her and told her so.
    Have we anything else to lose? They, the "people" will ban speaking within the car in a few years, ban farting (off putting) and maybe ban driving altogether. Bah Humbug and all that.
     
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    Are they actually trying to ban Bluetooth? or hands free where you do actually have to touch your phone?
     
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    I think it will come to nothing as the government with the backing of all the motoring organisations encouraged us to go handsfree,,,
    but then again they also encouraged us to buy diesel cars then shafted us...

    It's probably some back bench nobody trying to be noticed as a policy maker.
    So whats the difference between yapping on handsfree and singing along with the music thats playing in your car?
     
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    Not sure Scott, an easy way to make money? They're using the "save lives" angle. Seatbelts wearing became compulsory in 1983
    they claimed to save life but in reality it was to reduce the cost on the NHS to patch people up after an accident. I fully agree with the diesel issue. Someone somewhere is getting a very healthy wage to find ways of making Joe Public pay a fine.
    Remember, there was a beard tax and window tax. What next?
     
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    I think if you held a survey of the most distracting things when driving, then staring at the road surface looking out for pot holes to swerve around would be the top distraction! But as several decades have shown us, our politicians are indeed incapable of organising the fixing this simple yet widespread deadly problem.

    However where our politicians are very capable is of finding petty reasons to blame and fine the general public when it comes to collected statistics, it's like their specialty.

    Also as most politicians seem obsessed (money invested?) with bringing in Autonomous Cars as soon as possible, then banning personal communications in manually driven cars makes perfect sense !
    By legislating the people into autonomous cars.
     
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    my mrs used to automatically grab her phone if it made a noise while she was driving....she did it once while we had our daughter in the car when she was 2 but not done it since then... because i threatened to throw the bloody thing out of the car window..and i would have done so too... ok keep them switched on but put it on silent, that way the temptation wont be there to answer a text or call but still have the phone for an emergency....no call or text is so important you put lives at risk
     
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    All I’ll say, is almost every time I have missed a mobile speed trap, I’ve been gabbing on the phone. I’m not in any doubt that certain conversations take your mind off the road. Eg, maybe technical or contractual type discussions about work which require you to use the grey matter, or having a laugh with a mate. ‘ What do you want for tea’ discussions with the missus, less so.
    Saying that, when driving on hands free or not, I’ll be watching the road and other cars/road users. Not particularly paying attention to
    Parked vans in lay-bys.

    A few years ago on a speed awareness course, they told us of a case where a cyclist had ridden through a red light, and was hit and killed by a car that was obeying his side of the signals. The driver got 3 years in prison, as at the time of the accident he’d been talking hands free. The suggestion being had he not, he may have reacted to cyclist in time to avoid him.

    For my money, it’s all a bit ‘if my auntie had b******s she’d be my uncle’ , they had no way of proving that one way or the other.
     
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    The lady on bbc5live just now want a ban on touching the screen that comes with the new cars. So no changing radio etc. unless you use any buttons on the steering wheel, then they'll ban the steering wheel...o_O
    But technically it is still OK to put on your make-up as the do-gooders haven't specifically banned that.

    When will they realise there is a perfectly good law already out there - Driving without due care and attention.
    This covers it all, existing and future items or behaviour that takes your attention or makes you swerve, crash etc and you have committed an offence.

    More justification for the law makers to make more laws, earning themselves more money and making it more complicated for everyone else, but no safer.
     
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    Wow, bit harsh to throw the missus out.:D
    I maintain that if you have a phone in the car with no bluetooth turn the bloody phone off whilst driving. I've seen women doing War Paint (make up) window shopping (and talking/nagging) whilst driving, men shaving, looking at maps (in this day and age) and Christ knows what else. Cane 'em.
     
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    There's plenty of much worse distractions such as children but there will always be people who like to thrust themselves into the limelight and calling for a ban usually works for that. There's also a movement to ban grouse shooting - too many loud mouthed killjoys about :mad::mad:
     
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    I seriously think we have a society at present who are eager to go along with any ban without any thought to the outcome. To ban has got to be good "whatever"
    We will sit silent in our future cars while technology takes over it's course and speed. Lovely.
     
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    next on the list is the banning of mini skirts and ladies jogging pants - these are a serious distraction to male road users ;)
     
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    You may laugh but when I was working out in Kalifornia many years ago they banned the wearing of bikinis on the street for that very reason.
     
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    Hence all the palaver on the GL's, looking to ban grouse shooting, what next, pheasants,rats, ducks & geese, grey squirrels and Christ knows what else. When you think of the money & jobs created from shooting it's a f???ing joke.
     
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    One nearly got me the other day. If I close my eyes I can still see that arse, I think it’s been burned into my retinas :eek:
     
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    ninjarich1971 Snoozing gracefully

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    The technology is already available for the phone to know when your driving. The problem is that the tech companies are afraid of being the first to launch something which will be decidedly unpopular with so many people. I spend all day in a raised cab holding traffic up on the road. The amount of drivers I see daily looking at the phone is astounding. Unfortunately the worst culprits seem to be young women. Drinking and driving has become socially unacceptable so why is it acceptable to do something equally dangerous. As far as I’m aware there is only one pm in this country and he really is the only one who has a decent excuse that he needs to be contacted 24/7. Do you remember having to find a pay phone and having to reverse the charges. Then shouting at your mum to stop being a tight arse and accept the call. Ahh golden times.
     
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    If they do that I'll give up driving.:D
     
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    Buck it then, I'll drive on the bloody beach.
     
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    You're ill, very ill.:D
     
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