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Odd Mk1 Hw85

Discussion in 'Technical' started by robs5230, Jun 28, 2020.

  1. robs5230

    robs5230 Oversprung

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    Been asked to look at an old mk1 85 yesterday.

    The owner, took it in to my loca RFD, for it to be zeroed as she couldn't get it anywhere near.
    He's asked me to have a look at it. Though I'm not keen on working on anyone else's rifles, I said I would with this as I like he mk1 85.

    A check at 10m sees the old fitted Nikko silver crown being heavily maxed out on both windage and elevation.

    A quick inspection sees the barrel having a reasonably significant upsweep, so at some point in its life, someone's likely let go of the barrel during cocking.
    That can be sorted, and luckily there's no damage to the pistol grip or forend on the stock.

    But more of a concern, is that the raised scope rail appears to be somewhat on the p*ss.
    This is strange, as the rear block houses the 2 set screw threads and the main action tube is cut out with the keyway for the block underneath the raised scope rail so it can only fit in one place.
    WHen looking down the cylinder, the raised rail is obviously skewed across the cylinder.

    Has anyone come across this before, with the skewed rail ?

    I'd say the rifle hasn't been opened for the last 20 years or more judging by the amount of crud everywhere. I wondered whether a past "gunsmith" has tried to remove the end block before removing the raised rail :rolleyes:. But thinking about that, if that had happened, I think it would have twisted the rail the other way.
    I've removed the scope and there does seem to be a twist in the rail when a straight edge is placed against it. But I've also removed the stock and the end block and cylinder cutouts are lined up perfectly. Puzzling me a little.

    Has anyone heard of a rail being on the skew as supplied, as in a manufacturing fault ?

    Cheers
     
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    Slipknot88 Person of interest

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    Try putting the scope rail on other way round see if there's any difference,other than that I can't see why it could be squiffy, don't think it would have left the factory like that .
     
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    If she has only just bought it I’d be inclined to get my money back with this much wrong with it are you going to find it scored to hell inside ?
     
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    robs5230 Oversprung

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    The raised scope rail is keywayed and only fits one way.
    Coming to the conclusion its been damaged either when the barrels been let go or dropped.
     
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    robs5230 Oversprung

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    Not aware of the circumstances or where it was bought. She just took it into the RFD for zeroing.
    I'd guess its been in their family and stored a long time looking at the grot all around it.
     
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    Slipknot88 Person of interest

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    Sounds like someone must have really smashed a scope that was sitting on it.
     
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    Sounds like an attic job then just found after years
     
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    I've had a straight edge against the raised scope rail.
    Theres a marked kink / lateral twist.
     
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    Deejayuu Donator

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    May be one lug is half in the key hole slot and half out, side to side, if you see what I mean.
    Possible lug sheared one side.
    Seen a couple with damaged lugs caused by trying to hammer rails back without compressing the gasket enough.
     
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    if she wants to part with it i have some parts to put it right.
     
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    robs5230 Oversprung

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    I'm gathering it has some kind of sentimental value.
    Though if you have a raised scope rail spare and for sale, it would resolve that issue.
     
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    I may have a scope rail , I’ll just have a look
     
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    Yep got one .
    needs painting or blueing but if it’s any good make me an offer by pm
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    Other side
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