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Not competitive at all...

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by MrsGarf, Aug 3, 2014.

  1. MrsGarf

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    So tonight Garf and MrsGarf decided to have another play with our new toys. We're lucky to live near a field my mum owns, which is great for target practice.
    First up was some posing for the camera - here's Garf with his Weihrauch 100T.
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    Next up it MrsGarf with the S400 MPR :)
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    I've been shooting in this position, but think I need to try and get used to having my butt off the floor and sit on my right foot/kneel instead, is that correct? Anyway for tonight's first challenge I fired from this position and Garf was shooting from a prone position, using a makeshift bipod from two short pieces of bamboo.

    The challenge was to fire as many times as needed to zero the rifle and then take 10 shots each and highest score wins.
    Now bearing in mind Garf has used firearms quite a bit in the past and was renowned for being a pretty good shot; whereas I, on the other hand, had fired a rifle for the first time yesterday; the odds were somewhat stacked against me. But I like a challenge so I went with it.

    For a chuckle here's what I was up against - Garf's targets:
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    Now I'm not sure how many of the pellets were in the "6" score, but to be fair I wasn't going to compete on points...even so I was quite pleased with my efforts:
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    These were from around 10m - keeping it easy for now.

    I tried to shoot standing - lol :eek: at least I still hit the target, somewhere. But I did also get a chance to fire Garf's rifle and manage to hit the flower head I aimed at for a change from around 10m.
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    Happy for a newbie :D
     
  2. mattyts

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    Look at the HFT kneeling position,I think that's what you're describing,I prefer the FT sitting and find kneeling pretty uncomfortable.
     
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    good shooting there Mrs Graf, doing the mpr proud. you could do with one of picklehoffer's beanbag to sit on.
    BTW, what pellets you using ? mattys mpr loves jsb exact express
     
  4. MrsGarf

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    Thanks guys. Stevemandm we're using AirArms Diablo Field pellets. Probably a really ignorant question but how would I know which are better?
     
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    Not ignorant at all. Many barrels prefer certain pellets, and so perform better with certain pellets. The air arms barrels are quite unfussy where pellets are concerned, but we have had 4 s400's, and all preferred jsb exact express, then jsb exact 4.52, in that order. Mattys mpr will put 10 pellets (exact express) in a group that a 5p coin will cover at 50 yards or so. it's just a process of testing various pellets to find out which give you the most accurate, and consistant, groupings. We tried only a few before realising that the exact express were the ones.
    Hope this explains ok.
    Steve
     
  6. MrsGarf

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    I'm sure Mattys MPR might - but I'm thinking quite a bit of that is also due to Matty!! :D It was very helpful, thank you.
     
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    I think you have a cross between FT kneeling and sitting. Sitting will be more stable than kneeling. Have a search for FT sitting position.
     
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    Nice shoes and what's the full logo on the sweatshirt as I'm sure I've seen someone wearing one. Great shooting - my missus couldn't hit a house if she was standing inside it, but my (veggie) daughter has just enjoyed her first red deer stalking so I reckon we'll be ok if there's an apocalypse.

    Just on position - not sure what it'd be called nowadays, but I can get my knees right up and put the rifle across the crook of my left arm then hold the back of my right bicep with my left hand. Rock solid specially if you find something solid to lean against.
     
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    I used to use the FT sitting position described above and with a little practice it is virtually rock steady ..... it looks like neither of you have a "beer belly" so you should be fine ;) , unfortunately I have .lol
    before you know it you will be producing groups like that at much further distances .. enjoy and atb, rich.
     
  10. MrsGarf

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    Thanks all - I look up the FT positions - that day I just sat in what felt comfortable! No idea about position type. Garf and I were talking about prone positions and he tried to show me that day, but I couldn't even get a sight prone. We've made a few adjustments to the rifle set up and I know it's not bob on yet as I have to make a few attempts to get a clear sight, but once I got the rifle at the right height and me somewhat comfortable I managed to get this little lot out from around 15yds:
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    5 shots at each target, rezeroed the rifle after the first (top left) target (husband shot it from 35yds and that's the errant hole not in the black! :D) Then moved onto the top right, middle, bottom left and bottom right.
    Happy for my first prone attempt. :)
     
  11. Bemused

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    A nice starter card, you will be surprised how much better it becomes with practice.
    Some things that have helped me below.

    Sitting posture is key, its all about stability then learn follow through.

    Follow through is not pulling the rifle after the shot, if you can get to the point that the sight picture is unchanged AFTER the shot is taken you will see the pellets going down the same hole at 15 yards :D

    Breath in, the sight rises, let out half a breath the sight falls, hold the breath as the sight moved onto target, take the shot. Try to keep your position on the natural point of aim, don't fight for the target. If off target move your position not the hold.

    Tony
     
  12. Cymru-Dave

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    Nice one! Keep at it!
     
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    For pellet testing you want to remove as much of the human inaccuracy as possible. Use watever you can to support the rifle as steadily as possible. Sitting comfotably at a sturdy table with a gun rest or bean bags etc. supporting the rifle stock helps a lot.
     

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