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Non Ebay Auctions

Discussion in 'Get it off your chest' started by Boomshanka, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. Boomshanka

    Boomshanka Oldie but goldie

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    Not sure if any members have used other online auction platforms. But if you haven't I just want to pass on a little bit of my experience of traditional auctioneers who also run online sales.
    If you choose to go down the online bidding route and want the auction house to ship your lot, beware!
    Please, please, please ensure that you read the terms, fees and shipping information.
    Unlike eBay their commission varies between 15% + vat to 30% Inc vat for bidding online. What initially looks like a good price for your lot has suddenly jumped up 18% - 30% and that's just the start.
    A few have their own shipping department only charging a nominal amount on top of courier/postage costs, some charge a minimum fee of £12 + on top of shipping. Several will only ship any rifles or pistols to an RFD after receiving copies of relevant paperwork. And please finally be wary of any pointing you in the direction of a 3rd party shipper. I contacted one such specialist shippers about an air rifle (with a reasonably low estimate of £30 - £50). Their price for collection from the auction house, packing and shipping to one mainland UK address was £140.00 that's nearly three times the potential hammer price, not sure what they do to justify that cost but needless to say I didn't proceed and it probably would have been cheaper to get a taxi to collect and deliver.
    So all in, a £50 hammer price could end up being £215.00 for a £75 plinker off freeads.
    I'm not saying that you shouldn't use traditional auction houses to buy from. But do as I do and use only those within a reasonable driving distance, use the internet to research whether it's worth attending on the day of sale or use the telephone and perhaps you could walk away with some bargains.
     
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  2. SimonCornwall

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    Seconded, absolutely.

    If you buy from online auctions you are basically asking for it. There is one called auctionata who are proper fleece merchants - your bids aren't enough but another 10-15% will get it, no thanks forget it, surprise you get it anyway and then the fees go on - small Persian rug - there's dozens they have for sale from Germany and all about 40 euros p+p but the one bought will be 120 p+p thanks very much and even if you placed a bid that was below the reserve and the item was not sold their small print allows a 'deal' to be done afterwards meaning your 'low' price can be bumped up as much as they want and that's in the t+c's, vaguely. People knock eBay but at least there is some protection.

    If you want something at an auction get it done in person or place a bid online and then open your wallet, drop your pants and bend over.
     
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  3. Boomshanka

    Boomshanka Oldie but goldie

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    Everything is buried in the t&c's. I read reviews of certain auction sites before I started trawling through them a few years ago and some are definitely best avoided. If you actually go to the sale and the viewing days it's easy to build up some contacts.
    P.s anyone want to buy any German oompah band vinyl LP's
     
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    The introduction of buyers premiums killed auctions for me.
     
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    Best to view and either be there on the day or leave a commission bid if you can't make it on the day
     
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  6. Boomshanka

    Boomshanka Oldie but goldie

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    It's a hell of an operation, both buyer and seller pays for the service. Online works well but you have to very careful and like all auctions - set and stick to your limit
     
  7. hughwp

    hughwp Engaging Member

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    If you set your bids at the right price your far more likely to pick up a bargain at an Auction than ebay I reckon on paying 10-30% of value at Auction whereas ebay is usual top dollar if you post.
    I recently picked up a job lot of hunting gear worth about 300 new for £25 sold a scope for £65 and still got a tracer as new worth £80 (RRP 179) and other bits and bobs.

    Also picked upa meteor for £25 and sold it for £95
     
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    with auctionata or other onlines once you submit a bid you have effectively asked for a shafting, I was told my bid was too low and that another 20 would get it, I declined and was told the item did not sell but was later told the vendor accepted my low bid after all and the p+p which the small print says could be anything mysteriously added nearly a ton on it, when I complained I was told it's covered in t+c's, they do take legal action and I could collect it - from Germany - once a bid is submitted it cannot be retracted
     

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