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no housing benefit for 18-21 years olds wowwwww!!!!

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by whitevanman574, May 29, 2015.

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    conscription for benefits should be a follow up
     
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    john79 do you have kids? probably none.
     
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    YES 2 GIRLS
     
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    I'd make anyone wanting theses types of benefits work for it even if it was litter picking. I hate the fact that there are many out there who have never paid any money into the pot and think its there right to dip in....

    Lets hope it's a change for the good.

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    About time too!!!!!!! I had to make my own way in life and it made me better person! And yes I have children and grandchildren too!!!!
     
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    I dont see how a age limit helps anyone tbh.
    Ime not fussed if they are 18 or 52.
    If they need/deserve benefits fair enough but nobody should be able to play the system to get money for nothing.
     
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    These people always seem to have loads of kids, when they really can't afford to keep them,

    put a hat on the bloody thing, get the mrs on the pill and double your chances of NOT having kids you can't afford to bring up adequately:)
     
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    Yes and in the meantime we keep sending our money to the needy in other flaming countries, it's the people like you lot that is helping to ruin this country with no thought for your own kind living here.
    I have three boys all with excellent jobs, it's a shame that there is not enough to go around then again there would be if it were not for all the immigration here.
    and that is where the hand outs should stop.
     
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    I agree with the later part of your post totally....

    But there are so many idle youngsters out there who's parents have bought them up in benefit culture that have never done a day work. It's easy money why work to acheve anything when the government will give you a better standard of living than some working families.

    I admit some out there deserve help and would not see them suffer, but as we all know many just take the p**s out of the working man.

    The benefits system was there to help the infirm and needy not a give the idle a free ride.

    Andrew
     
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    GOOD GO to work.
     
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    We must look at countries such as China with their one child policy, that has come back to bite them.

    They now don't have enough young people in work to look after the ageing population, we should be investing in young because without them we all have no future.

    I do think there should be more practical training for youngsters to help prepare them to look after their children, it's the one thing that nearly any person can do without having any type of formal training or certification - having a kid and yet its the most important job and asset you will ever have!
     
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    So what happens if a 19 year old who's worked since they were 16 suddenly loses their job ? Not all of them will have a parental home to fall back on & some will end up on the streets. Is that fair when we're sending millions of pounds abroad in child benefit for kids that don't even live here ?
     
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    I agree, what should be stopped is kids already dependant on benefit/parents being able to access housing and the benefits that go with it, UNLESS, they are in dire circumstances.
    I started work at sixteen, had a mortgage at 19 and only once got help because I was made redundant, by then I was married with 2 kids. Plenty of people my age had never worked but got a bigger house, more time to themselves and money to spend by working on the side. I still see those same people, still going out 3 nights a week, having holidays, having cars and caravans, big TVs and I wonder if I made a mistake by working for the last 40 odd years? I work to provide for my family, they don't work but still get looked after ok!
     
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    Three part of one problem.

    1st. There are many families who have many children as it is a wage for them and a gravy train of benefits.

    2nd. There are many young people who will never work due to the above.

    3rd. Theses people don't need qualifications or certificates to have kid and bring them up as idle sponges.

    Theses people from the genetic cesspool will never look after mine or your generation because we are looking after them now.

    Andrew
     
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    if their benefits were capped/limited to the first 2 children only, i wonder how many of these nesbits would have larger families ? ......

    edit. i have nothing against supporting the genuine, its just those that take the pi$$ that i object to
     
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    Now the devil in the detail of benefit cuts will come out. The Tories would not have got the votes if they has spelt out in detail what they were going to cut. Its the in work benefits introduced by Labour that are the real problem, but wages are so low across the country cuts to these and housing benefit will cause real problems for people who are in work let alone not in work.

    i do think benefits should be capped at 2 kids, to stop a career of having children, and the child must be resident in UK to qualify for any child related benifts

    We will soon find out what is planned now there is no coalition
     
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    Couldn't agree with you more Donzo:up:
     
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    I agree with what you have posted Andrew, my comment was more along the lines of - we need young people to be able to replenish aging society, cutting back on the youngsters being born is not the way to go as we have seen from Chinese policy... but they need to be trained properly from the get-go and taught that working hard and being productive members of society is the only option if you want help later on.

    I'm disgusted with the amount of litter that is strewn across our cities streets and also agree that those who are able should be made to complete community work in order to have their benefits. My Romanian friend tells me that people with no income there can have benefits to survive on but they must work doing street cleaning, graffiti removal and other community work in order to qualify.

    My own personal view - my kids will have no choice but to work as I won't let them doss and lay about, my lad has worked from leaving school at 16 and has also completed his 3 year electrical training at college currently looking for an apprenticeship but has full time work in retail as well as starting his own DJ business, a lot of the problem is we have bred a 'feral' generation that will not pass on any work ethic to their children - these are the people being discussed, how to change the mind set and stop the rot that has already taken hold I don't really know apart from what has been mentioned above.

    I'm also in favour of non-combat military service - that would be the icing on the cake!
     

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