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NHS

Discussion in 'Get it off your chest' started by andy46, May 31, 2015.

  1. andy46

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    first off my dad has not been well since just before last December.over the last 20 years he has had a triple heart bypass,had a pace maker and difib fitted(which got infected)and had to have a new one fitted,just this last month he has just had a new one fitted(low battery).plus he has had four heart attacks and few cardiac arrests,before the pacemakers and difib were fitted.

    but since December he has been complaining of shortness of breathe to his GP,in the end my mum has had to ring for ambulances,has been to hospital six times with this,he's been in Scunthorpe,lincoln and hull hospitals,most for about a week at a time,and everytime the same old tests and checks,and they come up with nothing.they changed medication and still nothing.

    but this week was the final straw,he's been in Lincoln hospital and this time they have done different tests,found out he has pneumonia,for over the last four months.

    our family have been so f???ed off this hasn't been sorted until now is and understatement.
     
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  2. SteveO

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    We had pretty much the same run-around Andy and in the end found my dad's lungs were full of fluid - he died from 'Sepsis of unknown origin' when his oncologist knew full well the chemo he was on causes blood sepsis, but they failed to treat him accordingly and then further after his death, come to a concrete conclusion with the coroner as to the cause - smacked of incompetence and passing the buck - the coroner said as much to me.

    It's left us with a lot of anger and resentment that he could have been treated and saved but was left to die, finding it hard to put to rest.

    I hope your dad makes a good recovery! Wishing him well :up:
     
  3. Honest Bob

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    Same thing with my Farther, he is almost 90, was ill for a while, was not eating and lost weight, got the run around with the doctors and Hospital, said he had a bug, turned out he had had Pneumonia. Lucky he is a fit man, and still Farming. it could have killed him. I do think they don't care once you get past a certain age. The NHS would be a lot better without all these people from all over Europe etc bleeding the NHS dry. Go into our local medical center, English is a second language in the waiting room.
     
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    thanks steve,he looks better every day,the antibiotics and other medicine is working a treat a the moment.
    its a big shame about the NHS though
     
  5. SteveO

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    This would never have happened in the US run system with private health care, they would have found the problem quickly and treated it!

    Just goes to show in comparison what a complete shambles the NHS has become, I don't mean to belittle our doctors and nurses as they are run absolutely ragged - over worked, under paid/appreciated but the system is in a complete mess.

    My daughter was in hospital at the start of the year in a seizure status for 10 days straight and my wife and I were left to complete all of her personal care, lifting, bathing and even feeding her (we are NG and feed pump qualified) The nurses had no time to do any of these things.
     
  6. Margaret13

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    Sorry to read that andy hope you Dad is well soon
     
  7. tinmanofkent

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    I think the NHS is rubbish and I'm very sorry to hear how everyone's family has been treated on this thread. It's not like we are talking about the quality of food in a restaurant, this is life and death and careless mistakes cost lives.

    The NHS was founded on the principal that no matter what, if you needed medical care you would get it - regardless of your ability to pay for it. Now if you believe in that principal why wouldn't you be happy about people all over Europe getting the care they needed?
     
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    Really depends on which local authority has control and how they run things. The two top performing hospitals are Salford Royal and Frimley Park. Luckily I have parents in Manchester that have had private medical but found unbelievably that the NHS rum Salford Royal was as good if not better than the private they had and currently now going through a terrible cancer period with my mother in law who also has private but found Frimley Park NHS to be performing better than private albeit, the illness is proving difficult to fight.

    My boss had a quadruple heart bypass 17 years ago and towards the end of last year was short of breath and had his aorta valve replaced with a pigs one and went private. He has recovered extremely well

    Sorry to hear everyone's views of bad news though it really does depend on the local authority that controls your local NHS hospital
     
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    hello we pay for they dont
     
  10. Honest Bob

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    It was founded as a National health service, and is paid for by the British tax payer, it is not an International health service, paid for Internationally. I have nothing against a person here on vacation etc receiving emergency care, so long as they are insured, or their respective government pays. Just like you I have an opinion, and defend your rite to have your opinion. My opinion is, it's about time we closed the doors, and stopped our welfare and national health service being bled dry by all and sundry. Atb tinman, from Bob.
     
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    Everyone is entitled to be cared for in a emergency but this health tourism has got to stop, If you want to feel like you're on holiday abroad just go and sit in any A&E or CAB waiting room in the country.

    More than that what gets my back up is these tourists don't want to wait their turn and constantly barge and shout if they are made to wait, Us British have been far too patient and conservative for too long, I now find myself giving them a right old piece of my mind when they start... sadly they don't understand me.
     
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    Hope your Dad continues to make a speedy recovery and with that , a little less worry for you and your family. Best wish's. KB1
     
  13. Honest Bob

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    andy46. As above, hope your Dad gets the treatment he requires, and makes a full recovery. Atb, Bob.
     
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  14. tinmanofkent

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    Yes I understand, but if you feel 'we pay they don't' that's not in the spirit of socialised healthcare.

    You see, if you believe you pay in then receive service then you really are advocating private health insurance - not NHS.

    Im fine with the popular attitude of taking once you have paid in but it's completely opposed to NHS principals. Why do people want to mix the two up??
     
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    we are slap bag in the middle of a few hospitals that are close to us,i have Doncaster,scunthorpe,Lincoln,and hull,but everyone says that they are so bad,and iv seen it for myself that there's a lot wrong with them all,i counted in total 15 nurses and junior doctors stood at the nurses station doing what looked like nothing,sorry I meant playing with mobile phones whilst hes been in Lincoln.

    but they are looking after my dad and he is getting the treatment and medication he needs,and he looks better everyday.
     
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    Judging from the feedback we get from people we know around the country the northern NHS trusts seem to offer a lot poorer service than the more southerly ones.

    I wonder why this is? Just poor management, skewed perceptive or some other agenda...
     
  17. andy46

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    its like they cant be bothered with you up here,they just fob you off,and cant wait to get you out,in the end my dad said he wasn't coming out until he go it all sorted out.
     
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    what I forgot to mention in the first post was his clinical depression and emotional stress since march too.
     
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    to be fare to the nhs,my mother got took in with 3 mild heart attacks,pheunomia,and infections,could not fault the nurses over streched may i add tried their best and treated us with dignity but sadley lost her fight for life yesterday. lee
     
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    We have Colchester Hospital, a 'southern one' which is very poor and last time I looked in all kinds of Censored.

    No consolation of course but I suspect poor practises and management can occur anywhere.
     

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