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Advice newbie here

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by ROBBO92, Feb 27, 2014.

  1. ROBBO92

    ROBBO92 Newbie

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    hi guys and girls
    just thought id pop up and say a little hi to you all and just a quick question i have a small cheep smk b2 now just as a starter air rifle and want to upgrade to a cheap co2 rifle what do people think about this smk xs79 for its money all i will be using it for is ratting and a bit of target shooting i dont have much money to get a pcp or a more expensive co2 rifle and i will be getting a scope on the rifle and some other little extras on it :)
    cheers
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  2. mattyts

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    It's good (I think SteveO_R10 rebuilt one of these variants)but theres a lot of power fluctuations associated with CO2...have you considered a springer? I have 3 'cheap end' rifles that perform well above their cost and are more than suitable for ratting.
     
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    :welcome:to the forum.
     
  4. SteveO

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    Welcome to the forum Robbo,

    XS79 - £115, Gorilla air bottle - £35, Seal kit and bolt upgrade - £10

    You will then have a nice cheap HPA rifle that doesn't suffer with the shortcomings of CO2 and cold weather.

    All good providing you have the charging gear, if you don't a 3 litre tank can be had for £70 ish, this is probably the cheapest introduction to PCP rifle shooting.
     
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    Welcome along...stick with the CO2 if you really want at £109 its a cheap gun and runs at about 8ftlbs out of the box

    Word of advice...... Co2 guns can be expensive to run...and suffer power fluctations caused by tempreture....best thing to do when you get one is to give it a thourough clean
     
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    XS79 ......................................................£115.......................£109 AT Solware
    Gorilla air bottle.........................................£35
    Seal kit and upgrade..................................£10
    Second hand 3 litre tank.............................£70
    You could buy a second hand Airarms S200 for that
    Total.......................................................£230
     
  7. SteveO

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    But you've added the cost of the tank in there, it will need a tank or a pump on top of the price of the AA.
     
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    If you bought the S200 you'd still need a pump or cylinder to fill it...but you'd have a far better rifle :)
     
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    They are out there Steve i bought a S200 and a Hills pump for £180 a few weeks ago....just needed a reseal
     
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    I need to find one of these deals, I wouldn't mind a little s200 to be honest!
     
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    any chance that someone could link me the parts that i will be needing so that i can look into getting them ordered so they are ready for when i get my gun
     
  12. SteveO

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    If you decide to go down the XS79 route -

    Gun - http://www.solware.co.uk/air-pistol-air-rifle/22-co2-air-rifle.shtml
    Bottle - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271242000079?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
    On/Off Valve (optional but helps save air) - http://www.rap4uk.com/RAP4-In-Line-On-Off-Air-Adapter-p/9183.htm
    Seal and bolt kit - http://woodfield-gcp.co.uk/?product=qb78-qb79-seals-bolts-kits

    Converting an XS79 to HPA (high pressure air) will cause an increase in output power but this is remedied quite easily if you are handy enough with a simple modification that will need to be discussed via PM, You will also need access to a chronoscope such as a Combro or Chrony F1 to test power once you have converted the gun.


    If you are not feeling up to all this the guns work perfectly fine on CO2 during the warmer months and just need to slow down firing a bit during colder weather to maintain a steady power and stop them freezing up.

    Another option is to convert the gun to bulk fill, it still runs on CO2 but is filled from a fire extinguisher instead of the expensive little bulbs.
     
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    Just picked one up today - S200, bag, Simmons 6 x 18 competition scope and moderator. Needs a re-seal so it's off to Air Arms this week for a service. £200 all in. (not boasting, just chuffed to bits!)

    Sorely tempted to do the conversion on my XS79 - once I've used up my box of co2 bulbs!
     
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    im definitely going to do the conversion(well il get my uncle to do it because i dont know much about air rifles as ive just got into them) just will need to save up the money for it. what pump do i need for it? could i use my compressor to fill it?
     
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    I was given my XS so it was worthwhile doing the conversion!

    Have to agree with Reaper and yourself that an S200 setup (if air source was included) would be a more attractive option than the XS, Not sure if the OP can stretch to the expense though!
     
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    Outdoor sports Leigh... might get a good deal on a secondhand XS79 or 78. just HPA'd one for a fella who got it from there for £50.

    If he only has the 78 I can do you a swap deal on a 79 gas tube, a real simple job to do...
     
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    i have had a smk co2 rifle in the past and as long as you re-zero it every time you use it because of temperature fluctuations , they can be damned accurate . you can even make it cheap if you bulk fill ( archer air guns in the states sell the end cap ) + you will need a paintball bottle . you can fill that from a 14 lb co2 bottle from the brewing trade as long as its held upside down so as its a liquid fill ( they have no dip tube ) .but in the end you will buy a pcp anyway cos they are so much better so if i were you i would wait a bit save a bit and get that 2nd hand s200 that reaper 6 advised . atb gary.
     

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