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Newbie Advice!!!

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by steelman100, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. steelman100

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    Howdy Folks!!!
    I am a newbie to the world of Airguns and know less then nothing about guns/shooting etc!!!
    I have a big Rat problem in my garden and my kitchen extension.I have got rid of a few with traps but they keep coming back.I am thinking of staking out my garden during the night to first work out how they are getting into my extension and then taking out as many as possible with an appropriate air rifle.
    So..... my question is....which rifle would you guys recommend??? ;)
    Have I mentioned....I HATE RATS!!!! Grrrrr!!!! :mad:
     
  2. smallman28

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    Do you want to continue shooting afterwards?
    If not why buy a gun you are not likely to use again?
    I am pretty sure someone here might be near you and might consider helping you out.
    Depending what you want to do with the gun now and possibly in the future will influence what you should consider buying.
     
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    I think the rat problem will not go away permanently ... so it may take a few regular visits to keep on top of the problem! Obviously I don't want to spend a fortune mind.
    I am just trying to consider all options as I am running out of ideas at the moment!!! :rolleyes:
     
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    It might be best to consinder second hand if you aren't sure about the long term commitment.
    Most rifles from the BSA,Weihrauch and Webley range would be worth considering.
    Just bear in mind most rifles these days have a scope fitted to them and you may have to buy one if it isn't included,the big problem is though you might be working at close ranges which the scope just wont focus at very well.
    You might get a gun with open sights that would solve that but most new rifles aren't fitted with them and older rifles that had them fitted originally have now been lost.
    Also you would need to watch the possibility of ricochets in a confined space with a rifle.
    Pistols are considered a bit of a no no for shotting any vermin although some people do.
    Something like this might work
    http://www.ronniesunshines.com/crosman-ratcatcher-co2-22-air-rifle.html

    Its al there you would just need some CO2 capsules to power it and it is powerful enough at short range without being too powerful.
    If you find something you like the look of somewhere come here and ask some opinions.
     
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    Thanks for that smallman.... much appreciated!!! ;)
     
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    Well its worth waiting for some other opinions as they will always be different.
    Just dont be afraid to ask questions its the only way any of us learn.
     
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    Welcome to the forum!

    Shooting alone will not get rid of rats, the amount you see above ground will be about ten percent of what is below ground.

    Shooting will get the numbers down but if they're around a domestic property i'd get some good poison as well, also bear in mind why they're there in the first place, rats will only stay and breed in an area if there is food, water and shelter, so make sure there is no access to food.

    Traps work ok but again will only trap a small number, whereas poison will be taken into the nest and they'll all feed on it, it's not the nicest way for them to go, but t's the most effective way to get rid of them, i know, i deal with the b*****s all the time living on an arable farm.

    HTH
     
  8. StayingProne

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    As above, i wouldnt bother shooting them if you're just after a pest control solution, just poison the lot and cut off their "ammenities". If your interested in starting shooting, then you have a good permission to shoot in your own back yard to practice on, but again as above, what you are seening is only part of the problem. Its the ones you cant see that you need to get at too. Good enough reason to start though!

    Hope this helps...
     
  9. steelman100

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    Thanks for that!!! :up:
    The problem I got is they originally got into my kitchen extension we believe underneath the roof tiles.Due to the roof tile profile there was a gap for the rats to get under.These have all now been sealed and the rats were poisoned by the council!!!! (OMG!!! The smell!!! :eek:)
    No sign of rats for a couple of months then we heard the dreaded footsteps on the ceiling again.... set a couple of traps and got rid of them again although I have no idea how they got in this time.
    Now... recently heard the steps again...plus worse again they have managed to find their way into my loft extension in the house I think up the cavity.Still no idea how they are getting in...hence my original idea of staking out the garden with possibly some night vision equipment to try and work out their entry point....and then the air rifle to get rid of a few!!!

    I do have some poison in the loft but this seems untouched and I don't really want to use poison outside because I have a dog and fear her coming across some stray bits that she may eat!!! :rolleyes:

    So thats where I am at....again thanks for the advice folks!!! :D Any more would be very much appreciated!!!
     
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    if your want ing to buy a rifle for close work you could try the smk b2 any air rifle dealer can get you one for £39.95.......and yes a lot of people bad mouth it for being cheap and inaccurate well practice makes perfect i say

    you can still draw a straight line with a rickety stick
     
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    And if it doesnt shoot straight you can use it to club the rats with :D
     
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    lol you may be right but as i put in earlier its cheap and if your not wanting to spend a lot give it a go you might decide its a hobbie you enjoy and decide to upgrade or there is always someone wanting to buy a first shooter cheap if you dont like it

    ps sorry about my reply not being in the right forum lobby i saw munufacturers of rifles mentioned and didnt know better im a noob to this forum and will try to keep my advice on par with the topic

    appologies the duffman
     
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    get a jack russle.
     
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    if u need to buy a rifle then i would recomend the smk qb78 105 quid dont bother with a scope fit a laser 25 quid. your probly gonna be shooting average of 10 yards so u dont want anything full power,but if u decide u like shooting after a wile u can buy a kit later and tune it to almost full power and enjoy shooting targets for years. but if ur not into shooting get some pioson or enviroment people out and save yourself some money and bother...
     
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    Mma monster is right get a terrier. If your not planning to keep shooting after you solve your rat problem its pointless buying a gun. If you wanted you could get a shot of somebodys terrier i have used my staffy for rats and she was brilliant. And if u wanted to make a good dent in the rat population use a smoker ( a petrol strimmer stripped down to the minimum then ad an exaust) and a shovel if you find out where there coming from not only will this get rid of the rats but it is alot of fun to watch the dog go lol.
     
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    Before you buy anything is it safe to shoot in your garden? How far away are your neighbours? Have you a decent backdrop?
     
  17. stevemandm

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    rather than go to the expense of buying kit that you may only use for this purpose, why not invite a couple of local shooters over from this forum - must be loads of folk on here that are local to you and would relish the chance to take out a few rodents. then maybe you can see them in action, use their guns, pick up tips etc. this will make a dent in your problem, and help you decide if you want to buy a gun yourself. best to 'try before you buy'
     
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    Try the webley rat catcher. It's cheep and cheerful but also accurate!
    They also tend to keep there value so it could be easily re-sold when your done, or put in storage easily due to size & Weight.
     
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    Morning Folks.... well lo and behold my problem is solved (not my rat problem unfortunately!!!).... I rang my brother last night and spoke about my problem,to which he replied "I have an air rifle you can borrow...its a Weinrauch 95" ....Happy Days!!! Looking forward to having a go at shooting now!!!
    Next question is ....seeing that I don't have to spend out for a gun....what about a night vision scope... My brother can keep it then as a thank you for lending me his gun!!! :D

    Oh yeh.... As for the dog suggestion earlier.... I already have one.... A Staffy!!! And shes bloody useless!!! Lol!!!
    She has obviously seen something in the garden before....cos when I let her out at night she runs round the garden like a headless chicken barking!!!
    Never caught a bloody thing!!! Bless her!!!:rolleyes:
     
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    You can get poison traps, they're like a little black box that the rats go into to hide/feed, you put the poison in there so the dogs don't get it, the problem then is that poison tends to make them a bit dozy, so they're easy for most dogs to catch (our three catch loads in the grain barn when they've been poisoned) so you have to make sure you keep an eye out and take any they catch off them.
     

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