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Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Jes, Mar 2, 2012.

  1. Jes

    Jes Member

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    I am thinking about buying myself an air rifle and I will mostly use it for target shooting to start with but I would like to do some hunting as well, rabbit and squirrel mostly. I have no experience of CO2 but I thought about buying a cheap crossman ratty as I fancy customising it and seeing what I can do with it. I don't have a huge budget and I don't think I could run to a PCP so I have a few questions if you folk could help me out.
    What would be best a CO2 or a decent springer?
    How easy is it to refill CO2?
    If I go with a CO2 what sort of costs am I looking at for refilling, canisters etc?
    What are the volume levels like on a CO2 compaired with a springer?

    Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    Iwould go springer CO2s are affected by the temp if it,s cold there not that good so i hear
     
  4. ovy4213

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    I have co2 and springers.
    For co2, ratty is probably the best you can get out of the box, but is relatively low power hence the name (ratty) its designed for rats not rabbits. But with modifications its a cracking little rifle. You could also look at a QB78, Chinese rifle so not great quality, but if you put some time in, change the seals (about £2 for a full seal change) and consider upgraded bolt probe it can be a great rifle. I have done allot of modifications to my QB78 and I find it hard to decide which I prefer, that or my TX200hc :eek:.
    CO2 are great and generally cheep to use, but like has been said is effected by temperate easily, so you could zero your scope in during the day, go for bunnies at night and your zero is out by a few inch. I leave my gun outside in back garden for a hour in a plastic bag before going out shooting so it adapts to temp, then zero it in and its sorted.
    Springers are by far cheapest to run, only have to replace seals and main spring once ever 20-30 years depending on whether its a good make or not, but can be a bit annoying if your hide shooting, if nothing appears for a few hours its a good idea to shoot your rifle a manufacturers recommend not to keep your gun cocked for more than 45 mins (but there is allot of controversy about this) so you can actually scare stuff away if it doesn't appear after a while. Depending on what gun you get co2 varies in price, standard ratty and qb78 use 12g capsules which are about 50p-£1 each, but the king rat catcher takes 88g co2 capsules which are about £3-£5 each but you get allot more shots per fill.
    How long CO2 lasts depends on which gun you use and the power it puts out, generally more power=more co2= less overall shots per fill. about 20-30 full power shots in a ratty I find.
    But what you get depends on your budget and where you are shooting.
    If your hide shooting weight doesn't really matter e.g. a TX200, but if you have large perms to shoot on you want something lighter as you have to carry your gun around with you.
    And you can get decent CO2 rifles for cheep, but its harder to find good quality springers for cheep.
    If your looking at a springer though look at weihrauch, air arms and BSA. Probably the best you can get for your money.
    Also consider gas ram :up:
    Sorry for the essay, hope this has been useful though.
    If you need anything else or more questions just ask.
     
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    Thanks for the replies, after some more research I have taken a fancy to a TX200. I have seen a couple for sale in the adds section so I am seriously thinking about having a look at one. Naturaly I will let you all know how I get on.


    Thanks again.
     
  6. Darren Petts

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    You will never go wrong with a TX200. It's all the springer you'll ever need.
     
  7. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Especially after you have carried it round your permission all day!
     
  8. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    I would look at an HW95 as well!
     
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    as mole said a HW95,or a hw97K
     
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    Good write-up
     
  11. Jes

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    After doing more research and seeing a couple of reviews I got interested in this add.

    I had a chat to Leebo and I having come to an araingement I went to see him.

    I just have to sort out a few bits and I will be taking the TX200 to my range to be sighted in and Chronographed.

    Thanks to all for the help and advice.
     

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