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New Umarex Ppq Pellet?!

Discussion in 'Replica Airguns' started by Daibhidh Sco, Mar 19, 2021.

  1. Daibhidh Sco

    Daibhidh Sco Plinking in the Highlands

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    Hi folks.

    Apologies if anyone has posted about this before (couldn't see any obvious threads), but I was looking at the Umarex website this evening and noticed a new .177 pellet PPQ listed.

    I was delighted to see that it's not the somewhat aged and not very prototypical 8-pellet round mags and pop-ooen slide, but a blow back model with drop out, belt-fed pellet mag, much more like the Sig Sauer pistol pellet mags.

    https://www.umarex.com/products/airguns/co2/5.8400.html

    I've been wondering if Umarex might jump on the pellet belt feed mag bang wagon, and it seems they will indeed! I wonder if they've cracked lock open on last shot with this one?!

    I'm a Glock pistol replica guy mainly, but I also have a soft sport for PPQs. I'm very tempted by the look of this one!

    What say you chaps? Interested in it?
     

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  2. Daibhidh Sco

    Daibhidh Sco Plinking in the Highlands

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    It still has the air gun safety on it though...although on this gun, it works pretty well as the right hand slide release (although a bit annoying too for lefties like me).
     

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    I am wonder if the barrel is 4 inch?
     
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    Daibhidh Sco Plinking in the Highlands

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    Unfortunately, there's not any information on it yet beyond the basics. I was trying to see if I could see more detail on the video, but the guy spent most of the time just racking the slide and didn't really show much.
     
  5. Rich.engineer.electrican

    Rich.engineer.electrican Well-Known Member

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    Definitely looks cool, 20 shot mag is a big plus
     
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    Hi @Daibhidh Sco - thanks for sharing :loser:

    fyi PPQ is at 12:39 mins and S&W at 24:30 mins

    I had the old PPQ (8 round mag and DA only) this looks a big improvement.
    Interestingly Walther have recently launched the 9mm PDP - https://waltherarms.com/pdp/ which I understand is the replacement for the PPQ.

    I wonder why Umarex did'nt go for a PDP replica? I guess there are some costs savings as the existing designs for the PPQ can be adapted.

    I would have liked to have seen a metal frame Q5 match replica:

    - https://waltherarms.com/q5-match-m1/ that would be a worthy successor to the CP88

    walther-q5-match-sf.jpg
     
  8. Daibhidh Sco

    Daibhidh Sco Plinking in the Highlands

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    The PDP is a nice looking item - I'm sure it'll make it to the BB scene sooner or later. I guess development of this new pellet version may have begun before the PDP came out? I'm sure work must start a good couple of years plus before they're released?

    Like you say, they're also have a lot of Cad and tooling work done for PPQ frames etc., so that perhaps saves a bit on costs too, depending on what they're able to reuse for different types of air-powered guns?

    On the PDP, I particularly like the red dot cut out, which'll save on quite a bit of customer tweaking and is definitely the way things are going now. Although, I don't like the name 'PDP' that much...dounds too much like a professional development plan from work! Lol.

    Anyhow, this new PPQ will definitely make its way into my collection. I love the simplicity of Glocks, but there's something about PPQ that I really like too...and the PDP captures it as well!
     
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    Your absolutely right, Glock distilled what was required down to a very simple/functional pistol, they just seem to 'work'. I have the Umarex PPK and P38, so will definitely add the PPQ when it becomes available. PDP does remind me of a 1970's computer - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDP-11 :facepalm:
     
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    I'm so glad I wasn't the only one to remember jamming blocks of rubber into the back of a computer to stop the half sized boards shaking loose...
     
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    so after reading the post i looked on the major player here in the states but the pistol is still not available
    but the price is and boy are you paying a high price

    Walther PPQ M2 CO2 Pellet Pistol, Blowback | Pyramyd Air
    if the post above with the price is the norm, that is 254 bucks vs 120 ouch

    mike in the states
     
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    I worked on the ‘modern stuff’.... DEC VAX 780!
     
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    Hi Mike, you need to buy one first (as it’s cheaper in the US!) and test it, then tell us if it’s worth buying :)
     
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    Douglas Soal Pistol enthusiast for life.

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    That’s why we are often referred to as rip off Britain
     
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    Daibhidh Sco Plinking in the Highlands

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    Indeed. Even with [Politics are banned - read the Forum Rules] and increased costs, its still cheaper to buy new guns from Europe, I still get cheaper shipping than I would get an RFD transfer and it is still quicker from point of order to being in my hands. Bonkers!
     
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    I am going to buy one of these. I really like the look of the PPQ and being pellet, blowback and 20 round capacity will be great for my shoot setup.
     
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    Daibhidh Sco Plinking in the Highlands

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    Me too. I've got one on order now. Looking forward to it!
     
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    That's how I started out, as a Computer Operator, we had (I think, it was a long time ago) two 11/785s and two 11/750s, and then a couple for CAD but I can't recall what model they were,.... the CAD systems had massive booth like terminals with a joystick built in I recall. We also had an IBM System 38, replaced by an AS/400 and a McDonnel Douglas 19/300. This was 30 years when I first started. As a student, we'd learned Pascal on a DEC-20.
     
  19. Lostkiwi

    Lostkiwi Tomorrow will be a better day.

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    Pah that's the newer stuff!

    I learnt to program on these:
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    DEC PDP-8e...
    I was 12 at the time!
     
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    Gotta love the colours. All the chairs and desks in our Ops office were orange, bought to match the previous ICL midrange system they'd had.
     

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