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new to the sport seeking purchase advice

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Garf, Jul 16, 2014.

  1. Garf

    Garf Active Member

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    Hi all

    Just registered, thought I'd say hello.

    I'm brand new to the sport, just googling around the subject if I'm honest. Used to shoot full bore in the army and F class afterwards but gave up years ago. Getting the urge again but thought get into air rifle, which I've never done, and seems to offer much of the same in terms of discipline without the drama. I'd only be interested in target shooting.

    I'm seeking recommendations for a rifle. I have a budget of perhaps £1200, but want a decent scope included in that as experience taught me long ago that's where to spend your money and can't imagine air rifle shooting is any different. i have no real issue with buying used if you'd recommend that but would prefer new optics. PCP appeals but willing to be talked out of it.

    Advice advice welcome as I have no idea what I'm doing !

    G
     
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    Welcome along.
    I'd suggest a visit to a club in the early stages. Most shooters are more than willing to let you try what they have. This way you'll get a more of an idea what suits you rather than getting a 1001 suggestions from folk on a forum as to what suits them. You have quite a healthy budget so if you do go 2nd hand you'll get something decent in either springer or pcp varieties.
    Enjoy the stay!
    Regards Stu
     
  3. DUNKS

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    Good advice. No one can really advise you on what gun will suit. They can perhaps advise on what they have and that's all.
    get yourself to a club.
     
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    You have a healthy budget so should be able to get any decent pcp that suits you with enough for scope and charge bottle, Most scope around the £150 mark are more than adequate for target or hunting but like others say go and shoulder a few guns and look through a few scopes to see which suit you best. ps welcome to the forum
     
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    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    buy the best you can get away with as it'll save you money later!!!!!!1
     
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    For that budget your at the top class of PCPs,I would consider something like a HW100KT,even though they are ugly ;)

    Within your budget you should be able to get a very good scope,something like an MTC Mamba or Viper with good quality BKL mounts and a 3,7 or 12l charging setup.
     
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    take notice of those above all very good hints
     
  8. Trouserferret

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    I wish I had that sorta budget when I decided I wanted to get back into rifles! The world is your oyster there, especially in the second hand market.

    The club visiting idea is sound, btw. I've recently started up at a range, joining the club soon. Wish I'd done it earlier. You're nearly fighting folk off up there that want you to play with their guns! The other day I had a good blast with an HW100KT, an HW40 and an Air Arms Alpha Proj. All guns I'd never even handled before (never even seen an Alpha), but the guys wouldn't take no for an answer. They downright forced me to sit down and try 'em. :D

    Getting something in your hands and putting a few rounds through it (like others have said before) is going to be miles better than folk's opinions. Didn't think I'd get on with the HW100KT 'til I had a go on one last Sunday, handled superbly and was a real treat to use.

    Edit: And hello! Welcome to the forum, it's been an indispensable help for me. Some really sound folk on here, always someone that's got some advice for you in your time of need! :up:
     
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  9. buffy vampire slayer

    buffy vampire slayer LOW BELLEND THRESHOLD

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    depending on what type of target shooting you intend doing (HFT,FT garden plinking) will depend on the type of the gun and scope combo you will need.
    if you intend doing it seriously then your only calibre choice will be .177 as the HFT,FT ranges will negate any other calibre in the 12ft/lbs bracket due to their loopier trajectories.
     
  10. Garf

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    charging bottle won't be a problem. I have two 12 litre twinsets, 6 X 11 litre tanks, 4 X 7 litre tanks, 4 X 5 litre tanks, a handful of 3s and probably an old 15 in the shed. I'll just need to make one of them a dedicated bottle and put the right valve and whip on it. I also have access to a 300 bar compressor and air bank so that bit is easy :)

    I've googled around for the nearest clubs. I'm close to Ford Ranges in East Sussex, and there's also a field target club just up the road.
     
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    seakingfixer Engaging Member

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    are you an SLR or SA80 man ?
     
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    Welcome along, all the others have given great advice. Try before you buy, £1200 is a great budget.

    SLR all the way wooden stock and butt..:violent4:
     
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    A lucky man indeed!

    Everything seems to be falling in your favour, so all you gotta do is roll up and tell them you're looking at buying a rifle and you need to see what you're after.

    I'll bet they'll be falling over each other to convince you that theirs is best, thrusting them into your arms to try! :D

    Cloverfield did a really good write up on cylinders, might come in useful. Been reading it looking for summat that'll suit me (and my wallet!). Linky
     
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    SLR amongst other things, but I did get to play with the SA80 before I left. Sorry if I'm about to upset you but I thought it was a piece of ****. the SLR felt like a precision instrument. The SA80 felt like a toy. when you fired the SLR you knew you had fired a serious piece of kit. When you fired the SA80 it just wasn't the same. I also found it a PITA to strip and clean compared to the SLR. Interestingly I hear that in-theatre demands of Afghanistan have resulted in a new 7.62 being widely ordered. The circle is now complete :)
     
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    i teach technical scuba diving, so have cylinders all over the house. It's keeping the b*****s in test and Oxygen clean that's a PITA.
     
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    OK, so it's literally just a scuba cylinder with a specific valve.

    I might use one of these then as they don't look as shiny as they did when I painted and labelled them :)

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Trouserferret

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    Aye, that's about the jist of it, wasn't sure of the ratings you had.

    With a 300bar air source, I wouldn't hesitate to use one of them. Just the fact I'll have to pay for my fills has my Scrooge senses tingling. :D

    Here's me looking for one tank, and you're trying to pick the scabbiest one of yours! :p
     
  18. seakingfixer

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    Not upset in the slightest. Quite the reverse actually. I only asked so I could give a more informed opinion . being an slr man myself i love the feel and balance of the hw97kt which is a springer but very accurate but a bit on the heavy side for some. never handled hw100 which is a pcp but it looks similar build. with your budget you could treat yourself to both.
     
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    hi
    I have a hw100 and love it. i personally dont like the tactical guns but hey if we were all the same life would be boring:)
    I found it quite confusing as the choice is massive but enjoy mate its a great sport:)
     
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    OK, I had a play with a couple of rifles - the Air Arms 410 and the HW100. I absolutely adored the HW100. Am visiting a club next week so I don't rush into a hasty decision!
     

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